Clueless

Yesterday saw a lot of passionate rhetoric about the Obama administration's brief in the Smelt case, most of it justified.

But a reader at Andrew Sullivan's site provides some clarity that may help to expose the real problem. A DOJ career lawyer (apparently) chastises those who have been criticizing the brief for being written by a "Bush holdover." The vast majority of employees at the DOJ, as with most government entities in the U.S., are civil servants protected from the political winds that blow through the top of their organizations. In that sense, every civil servant at DOJ is a Bush (and perhaps Clinton, and perhaps Bush I) holdover.

In that correct, small criticism lies something pretty profound that I think can help us understand what most likely did happen here. It's not as benign as Andrew's correspondent says, but it's also not as diabolical or cynical as many of us originally might have thought.

The brief was almost certainly written and edited by a number of civil service lawyers, with some review by top level political appointees. Those political appointees - up to and including both Attorney General Eric Holder and President Obama, himself - are the ones who are ultimately responsible for every word.

The civil service lawyers - one of whom proudly boasts of being a Mormon on his webpage - most certainly drafted the brief, and the tone of the implicitly insulting language and arguments they used was virtually invisible to them. They were required to defend a statute, and this is what they came up with.

This can explain the silently slanderous spin of the repeated reference to same-sex marriage as a "form" of marriage. This puts linguistic air quotes around "marriage," the way the Washington Times used to do. It walls off same-sex marriage from what some heterosexuals view as "real" marriage. (See how the air quotes work?)

More insidiously, the argument that DOMA is rational because it saves the government money is something no one who has thought seriously about gay equality could even remotely imagine, much less articulate. The argument reduces a claim of civil equality to one of crass financial pleading.

And, ultimately, the fundamental position of the brief, as many have noted, is that no one is being discriminated against here because, just like their heterosexual counterparts, homosexuals have every right to marry someone of the opposite sex. This is the pro forma "equality" that is laughable today to all but the most rigid anti-gay zealots.

But how could this derision not have been noticed by the President's men? First, and most obviously, I can only imagine that no lesbian or gay men ever set eyes on this brief. Perhaps I am wrong, but I honestly can't see how any self-respecting homosexual in 2009 could possibly think this brief was acceptable. While California's Attorney General Jerry Brown has had to both defend and challenge anti-gay laws, his office has the grace and simple common sense to make sure the briefs are reviewed, if not drafted in the first place, by openly gay attorneys.

There is something deeper here, though. Obama is comfortable with the cliché political rhetoric of gay equality, but this brief shows his understanding doesn't go a centimeter deeper. Or (most generously) that his Attorney General knows only the words and not the tune. To someone who understands gay equality as little more than a set of slogans and bromides, this brief might not have looked particularly offensive.

That, at least, is the most generous understanding I am willing to indulge - that the brief was written and/or edited by civil servants with an anti-gay inclination, and reviewed by political staff who know no more about gay equality than what they read on the President's website.

The ball is now in the President's court. He owes us an apology - and not one of words, but one of action. Signing a hate crimes bill won't do it. Nor will an additional imprecation to Congress to do something about DOMA. It is he who was elected President with the explicit promise that gay equality would be on his agenda. What Presidents do is lead, and after this anything less than the kind of leadership he shows on other issues will be confirmation of a betrayal of those like me who voted for him in good faith.

Barack W. Obama

At Volokh.com, constitutional law prof (and IGF contributor) Dale Carpenter's take on Obama's DOMA brief: Except for the odd flourish or two, it could have come straight from the mouth of the Bush Administration. Read it here...and weep.

Barack Obama Demonstrates His Committment to Gay Rights

There are three things worth saying about President Barak Obama's Motion to Dismiss in the case of Smelt and Hammer v. United States:

(1) It is gratuitously insulting to lesbians and gay men, referring (unnecessarily) to same-sex marriage as a "form" of marriage, approving of congressional comparisons between same-sex marriages and loving relationships between siblings, or grandparents and grandchildren, and arguing (with a straight face, I can only assume) that discrimination against same-sex couples is rational because it saves the federal government money. There are some respectable arguments in this motion, and this kind of disrespect is offensive.

(2) It argues that the couple don't have standing to sue because they have not "applied for" federal benefits. While there are some federal benefits that people do, in fact, need to apply for, no heterosexual couple applies for the vast majority of federal benefits like joint income tax returns - they just rest in the knowledge that they will be there when and if they need them.

(3) Most notably, we should all beware: Premature cases ruling against us can do harm long after the original has faded from memory. The motion cites specifically to a case from 35 years ago, Baker v. Nelson, in which the Minnesota Supreme Court waved off in fourteen short paragraphs any claim that same-sex couples might have a right to marry one another, and which the U.S. Supreme Court dismissed for want of a substantial federal question. This well-intentioned case from back when the 70s were in their infancy is still being used against us (it even made an appearance in California's first same-sex marriage case, Lockyer v. City and County of San Francisco). What may not have seemed like much of a question then has certainly gained some substance over time, but the damage from that case lingers and stings to this day.

UPDATE: This only makes the DOJ approving of this brief look worse. Good lord.

Making the Case (to the Right)

Maura Flynn makes The Republican Case for Gay Marriage. She writes:

As a nation we're at a crossroads, no question. Our banking industry scrambles to escape quasi-nationalization, our auto industry is in the process of being nationalized, and we have instituted, of all things, a Car Czar (note: it took Russia roughly 300 years to stack up so many czars). If that isn't bad enough, nationalized health care is on the table again.

So as the Republic devolves and those with the means contemplate hightailing it to the Caymans, it's probably time to ask ourselves what it is to be "conservative."

One need only read the comments on this site to know that there are two fundamental schools of thought here. Some of us believe that to be conservative is to defend freedom, preserve individual liberty, and keep government small. Others believe that being conservative is about electing a government that will defend and enforce "traditional" values.

And she adds:

The Republican Party has made a huge mistake in advocating a kind of Cafeteria Constitutionalism. (I'll take some guns, no helmet laws, please, a free market, and...yuck, hold the gay marriage!). One can't legitimately invoke the Constitution to oppose federally mandated sex education, and then use the federal government to impose school prayer. Leave that fair-weather-federalism to the Left.

This is the type of argument a movement seeking legal equality for gay people ought to be making. But, of course, it's something the LGBT Democratic Party fundraisers at the Human Rights Campaign have decided isn't worth any effort.

More. Of course, maybe HRC should focus first on defending gay legal equality to the Great Liberal President to whom they pledged unconditional LBGT support during the election. From AMERICAblog: Obama defends DOMA in federal court. Says banning gay marriage is good for the federal budget. Invokes incest and marrying children.

Not working to build up support on the right is what has allowed the left to walk all over us. Eggs and baskets, boys and girls. Eggs and baskets.

More. LGBT myopia: We don't need Dick Cheney's support. LGBT progressives are confused: how would achieving marriage equality with Republican support serve the Democratic Party?

2010 or Bust

Dale Carpenter makes an excellent case for California to wait before trying to repeal Prop. 8. I'm still wrestling with this, myself, and think he makes a very strong argument. I'd even add a point he understates. The Supreme Court was quite clear that the effect of Prop. 8 was to constitutionalize the word "marriage," and nothing else. For constitutional purposes, same-sex couples in California are and must be treated equally to opposite-sex couples, except they can't - constitutionally - be called "married." As I've previously noted, that is a sophomoric use of a state constitution, and will have little, if any effect in the broader culture, where it's just easier to call same-sex couples married - including, of course, the 18,000 who actually are married. Compared to couples in states that don't have constitutional protection for their substantive equality, California same-sex couples don't have it so bad, with the notable exception of being denied every right under federal law - something California voters can do nothing in state law to change.

But there are very potent arguments in favor of 2010. Dale mentions money, and I think he's right that the $80+ million raised on both sides for Prop. 8 could be the future baseline. But maybe not. If the right didn't win an entirely Pyrrhic victory with Prop. 8, it was certainly a puny one, particularly in light of the 18,000 married couples who will be strolling our grocery store aisles and going to school soccer games in coming years. The primary reason Prop. 8 was able to succeed was because its political proponents were savvy enough to realize that the only victory they could deliver was a superficial one. The decision at the outset to leave domestic partnership alone was a strategic concession that acknowledged the base reality in California: same-sex couples are part of our cultural fabric now.

After spending $40 million with no more than that to show for it, I can certainly see the right finding greater value in spending its money on some other state. California already has more same-sex married couples in it than any other state and it's illegal here. Given those 18,000 couples, plus our domestic partner law going forward, is a fight to hold off the marginal differential really worth the right's time and resources? They could get real discrimination in some other state for a fraction of the cost.

Dale makes a good point about our side's failures in the Prop. 8 debate, but the Meet in the Middle rally in Fresno last month was an extremely strong sign that we have learned from our mistakes. This effort, along with some fine new television ads - outside the framework of any pending election - is exactly the sort of work we need to do to secure long-term gains in the general population. Trying to move Fresno closer to the support side is the best evidence I've seen that our more left-leaning leaders are getting the message that they need help talking to people who don't support gay rights for leftist reasons. Heck, even acknowledging that there are non-leftist reasons to support gay equality is a huge step forward for us.

While Dale may be right in general that 2010 will be a better year for Republicans than 2008, I'm not at all convinced that will be true in California. The collapse of California's Republican party, and its almost complete insulation from moderates, is more advanced here than in the rest of the nation, and their alienation of pro-gay voters is more deeply entrenched than non-Californians may realize. At least so far, I don't see much of a GOP resurgence here, and if our Republicans are pressed into yet another gay battle they are unequipped to deal with, it will only help to show Californians how out of touch these folks are. Remember, our GOP has, to this day, never officially even accepted domestic partnership rights.

I would certainly be content to wait until 2012, but I can see a good case for 2010 as well. Either way, I am so amazingly gratified to know that the only question for us is when, not if we'll have full marriage for all same-sex couples in California.

Another Shrug from Obama

Illinois's civil unions bill, after passing a state House committee, was left to languish at the end of the session.

The bill is still alive, if barely: it can be passed by the state legislature anytime in the next two years.

It doesn't really surprise me that the bill hasn't moved this year. Despite neighboring Iowa's fantastic move to full marriage equality, Illinois's state legislature had other things to worry about, thanks to the corruption scandal surrounding Rod Blagojevich. It's also, despite it's tentative blue status, fairly conservative - note that the bill was for civil unions in a year when marriage is the biggest player at the table.

But that should have been its advantage.

Let's pause for a moment to consider this: Illinois is President Barack Obama's home state (at least as an adult). Obama has said - emphatically - that he is for civil unions, not marriage. And that he wants equal legal rights for gay and lesbian couples.

Why didn't Obama lobby for the bill?

Why didn't he say in a speech something like: "My own great state of Illinois is working now to further the equal rights of gay couples. I hope they pass the current civil unions bill."

Why didn't he call his former friends in the legislature, where he was a state senator, after all, and encourage them to do the right thing?

If he's not for equal marriage - and he's not (he prefers gays and lesbians to have "separate but equal" status instead) - why isn't he trumpeting the recent passage of domestic partnerships in Nevada, or partnerships in Washington state?

Easy. It's the same reason he hasn't moved on the Defense of Marriage Act, and the Don't Ask, Don't Tell military ban (which the majority of Americans support) and why he didn't issue a supportive statement on the Uniting American Families Act when it was being debated in Congress last week.

Gays and lesbians are not his priority. Which is why the only "accomplishment" his administration could claim in proclaiming the White House's support for Gay Pride month was this:

"I am proud to be the first President to appoint openly LGBT candidates to Senate-confirmed positions in the first 100 days of an Administration."

Except - ooops - the Advocate reported that this isn't true. President Clinton nominated Roberta Achtenberg as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity and Bruce Lehman as Assistant Secretary of Commerce and Commissioner of Patents and Trademarks, both within his first hundred days.

The White House's response?

"President Obama remains the first president to have openly LGBT candidates confirmed by the Senate during the first 100 days of an Administration."

Call me crazy, but that doesn't seem like "fierce" advocacy to me. Things got worse this week when the Supreme Court turned down the opportunity to review Don't Ask, Don't Tell - partly because the Obama Administration argued that it was a "rational" policy.

Obama has been mostly silent on our issues since taking office. Insiders tell us that he will keep his promises. They tell us to be patient. They tell us to wait.

Maybe they're right. Maybe not. Maybe the Obama Administration really is working like crazy behind the scenes to dismantle DOMA and Don't Ask, to support the Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Uniting American Families Act. Maybe they're just hoping if they placate us enough, we'll go away.

All we know for sure when it comes to this Administration is that hope is not enough. Promises of "change" are not enough. We supported Obama with our dollars and our labor, and it is time he supports us in return.

But until he does, the good people of Illinois - like good people all over the country - have to wait for their rights.

The Folly of 2010

On November 2, 2010:

(1) A repeal of Prop 8, in some form, will be on the California ballot.

(2) About $60 million will have been raised in the effort to repeal Prop 8.

(3) The repeal will fail.

(4) The margin of loss for SSM advocates in California will be greater than the margin of loss in November 2008, probably in the neighborhood of 46% "yes" (for repeal) and 54% "no" (against repeal).

How likely is this scenario? Prediction #1 is clearly the direction in which SSM advocates in California seem headed. There is no enthusiasm among activists for waiting until 2012, much less 2014 or 2016. Moreover, although organizational leaders and strategists just four months ago seemed to be leaning against a 2010 repeal effort because it was too soon and would fail, the momentum has swung in favor of 2010. Even Equality California, more strategically conservative and cautious than most street activists, is leaning strongly towards it, reporting that a "majority" of those they've polled favored 2010 over 2012. The California Supreme Court's recent decision upholding Prop 8 seems to have galvanized the 2010 effort.

Prediction #2 is, if anything, a lowball estimate. SSM advocates raised just over $40 million between June and November 2008. It was a huge sum, but it will not be enough next time. It's a baseline. Given that everyone will expect a close vote, and given that everyone knows California will be the end of the beginning if SSM wins politically there, both sides will be even more highly motivated to donate once the initiative reaches the ballot. Without a presidential election to suck up contributions, more money will be available for social-issues campaigning. We should expect at least a 50% increase in the amount needed.

But it won't be enough, which is why prediction #3 will come true. Anti-SSM activists are fully aware of the stakes and are fully aware of how close the outcome may be. There are many more people who passionately oppose gay marriage than who passionately support it, even in California. This was crystal clear last November, when supporters of Prop 8 simply out-muscled us on the ground in every part of the state except a few neighborhoods in a few cities. There are areas where our side was completely unrepresented. I spoke to an organizer supporting Prop 8 who told me, "We didn't even see you guys out there." Some things can be done to reduce the gap, but the brute math is still there and won't have changed that dramatically by 2010. I also think we'll probably need one more loss at the polls in California before tacticians on our side make the proposal as broadly acceptable as possible -- for example, by including in the repeal substantial conscience protections for religious individuals and organizations. These aren't needed as a matter of law, but they are helpful as a matter of politics.

Moreover, prediction #4 will come true because the 52%-48% margin by which we lost in November was deceivingly close. Everything else being equal, the conditions were about as favorable for SSM supporters in California last November as they are likely to be for many years. They aren't likely to be as favorable in 2010. This is true for several reasons: First, 2008 was a presidential election year, when turnout is higher and when more mainstream, less ideologically committed, voters dominate. 2010 will be a gubernatorial election in the state, which means there will be a somewhat higher proportion of traditionally conservative, committed, and disciplined voters. Second, 2008 was a bad year for Republicans. 2010 will likely be a better year in general for Republicans since mid-term elections are usually good for the party out of power. Sorry to say it, but good years for Republicans are usually bad years for gay rights. Third, gay marriage was the status quo in 2008, however briefly, and meant that gay couples were actually marrying. It will not be the status quo in 2010. People have a status quo bias. Fourth, the ballot language on Prop 8 reflected the status quo by indicating that it would "eliminate rights," something Americans don't like to do. In 2010, nobody will lose existing rights if voters refuse to repeal Prop 8. The ballot language may be friendly to SSM supporters in 2010, but it can't be as friendly as it was in 2008. Fifth, supporters of SSM needed a "no" vote to prevail in 2008. In 2010, they will need a "yes" vote. There is a small built-in bias (maybe 1-2%) for "no" votes. Sixth, some voters will resent being asked to vote on something they just voted on.

The kinds of voters who are affected by these factors aren't ones heavily invested in SSM, on either side. SSM doesn't hurt them, but it doesn't directly help them or anybody they know, either. They have low stakes in the outcome, but their votes count as much as those who have high stakes. They can be moved by mild nudges that shouldn't matter in principle, like resentment over voting again so soon, or by an effective ad campaign. They may be only 5-8% of the electorate but everyone agrees they will make the difference.

The longer we wait for repeal, the more likely we'll win. This assumes that younger voters continue to support SSM, that older voters gradually get used to the idea, and that the oldest die-hard opponents succumb to certain actuarial realities over time. So, all else being equal, 2012 would more likely produce a victory for SSM than would 2010. And 2014 or 2016 would be even more likely, although gaming results that far out is hazardous because of political factors that have nothing to do with repealing Prop 8 (like whether Obama serves a second term and Republicans take back the White House in 2016).

What would be the harm in rolling the dice in 2010, even if 2012 is a better bet? We might still win in 2010, after all, which would be great. But what if we lose in 2010? We just put it back on the ballot in 2012, then 2014, then 2016, until we win.

The problem is that losing has consequences beyond the immediate loss. Initiatives -- from gathering the needed signatures to running an effective campaign to winning -- require a huge investment of money, people, and time. Such resources are finite. The $60 million or more that will be spent in 2010 could go to other things, like state and congressional elections or fighting a possible SSM repeal (Maine? Iowa?) or amendment ban in another state. Those volunteers and organizers could be doing other productive things with their time. And losing in 2010, especially if the margin is greater than in 2008, will be deflating. It will harm morale. It will scare off legislators elsewhere. And it will be taken (incorrectly) as a sign that the tide is beginning to turn against SSM, with numerous political consequences in the short term. Losing doesn't mean you start from scratch the next time you try. It means you start from scratch with a bigger political, psychological, and financial burden. Waiting until 2012 would be better, in this sense, than losing in 2010 and trying again in 2012.

The only thing that can stop the mad dash to 2010 is donors, both inside and outside California. They can refuse to fund the initiative drive, which will mean that it will fail to make the ballot. That's what I hope will happen. Supporting SSM does not mean pressing for it everywhere, at any time, by any means. It means thinking hard about the choices, the likely outcomes, and the consequences of those outcomes.

But if a repeal makes it to the ballot in 2010, we'll have no choice but to join the fight.

My Life on the Blogging D List

I think of myself as a Premium Member in the Andrew Sullivan Fan Club, but Franklin Foer's shout-out to Andrew in this TNR video ("Andrew Sullivan wrote last week that Jake Tapper is the straight guy who cares about gay rights. . . ") is for this post, where Andrew basically just linked to my post, "In Praise of Jake Tapper."

Andrew deserves all the praise and attention he gets for his terrific writing and thinking about torture, abortion, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, and a cornucopia of other deeply unpleasant subjects -- and I hold him almost single-handedly responsible for my own mental health for his pitch perfect taste in videos. But can a brother get some love here?

IGF occupies a very small corner of the blog world, but with Steve Miller, Jon Rauch and even some extra-added Dale Carpenter, I think we're providing color and original thought to the gay rights debate.

Plus, I kind of wanted Jake Tapper to know I'm paying attention . . . .

The Shame Game

There is a good battle brewing in Washington state, where signatures are being gathered to repeal that state's recent domestic partnership law. A website called WhoSigned.org will make available the (statutorily public) information of who signed the petitions to repeal the law.

This is part of a larger movement in recent years to disclose the public information about who opposes legal recognition of same-sex relationships. Larry Stickney of the political-action committee Protect Marriage Washington, makes the case against disclosure:

This seems to be a typical pattern developing around the country where the homosexual lobby employs hostile, undemocratic, intimidating tactics wherever their interests or intent are challenged. . . They take the politics of personal destruction to new levels. I am a personal recipient of dozens of obscene and threatening e-mails and phone calls since we filed this.

This is a good point, and if it sounds familiar to those of us who are gay or lesbian, that's because it's exactly the way we have been treated for centuries, in various forms; imprisonment and police harassment, for example, are certainly "hostile," if not exactly "undemocratic," and while they're worse than "obscene or threatening e-mails and phone calls," they're certainly still an "intimidating tactic."

Stickney's comments show, in fact, how the cultural history of homosexuality, based on shaming us, is still at work today with a twist. As the movie, Outrage shows, there are still gay people ashamed of their own homosexuality who cling to the decaying remains of the closet. But now it is our opponents who are most loudly shouting about the need for a right to privacy. As we've come out of our closets, they're trying to construct their own.

For the record, we'd be perfectly happy if homosexuality didn't need to be a political issue. In fact, that's exactly what we're fighting for - the equality the law denies us explicitly, as in DOMA and DADT, and marriage laws that exclude us entirely. Once those are cured, I, at least, will be happy to take gay equality off the political agenda.

But until that happens, our own self-respect is on the line. And politics is not the kind of fight you can have while hiding. If Stickney and his supporters can't stand the heat of politics, they should get out of the kitchen.

‘That’s How I Was Raised’

A recent New York Times Magazine article spotlighted a shocking vestige of our nation's racism: segregated proms. It focused on one school in Georgia's Montgomery County, though the practice is common across the rural South.

I say "shocking" even though I personally wasn't surprised. One of my best friends is from rural Tennessee. His alma mater still segregates superlatives: White Most Likely to Succeed, Black Most Likely to Succeed; Funniest White, Funniest Black, and so on.

The white students quoted in the Times article expressed some reservations about the practice, but generally concluded with "It's how it's always been…It's just a tradition." In the words of Harley Boone, a platinum blond girl with beauty-queen looks who co-chaired last year's white prom, "It doesn't seem like a big deal around here. It's just what we know and what our parents have done for so many years."

"It's just what we know." Miss Boone reminded me of another beauty queen, in both her appearance and her comment: Miss California USA Carrie Prejean.

Miss Prejean, you'll recall, when asked her beliefs about marriage equality, responded (in part), "I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that's how I was raised."

How I was raised. Tradition. What our parents have done. This is not, in itself, a bad reason for doing something. It explains why I set the table the way I do, for instance, or why I always put an extra unlit candle on a birthday cake ("good luck for the next year," my mom always told me). It explains, too, more substantial practices-how we gather, celebrate milestones, express joy, or mourn loss. No generation does, or should, invent everything from scratch.

And yet, sometimes "what we know"-or thought we knew-stops working, or never worked very well in the first place.

I used to load the dishwasher with the forks tines down-because that's how my parents did and still do it-until I realized they get cleaner tines up (in my dishwasher, anyway, and please don't send me irate e-mails if yours is different).

Spotty forks are one thing. Racial and sexual inequalities are quite another. When traditions cause palpable harm to people, it's time to change. At that point, rethinking tradition is not merely optional, as in the dishwasher case-it's morally mandatory.

And that's why Prejean's " how I was raised" comment struck so many of us as a dumb answer. No educated person can justifiably claim ignorance of the challenges gay individuals and couples face. We gays are deprived of a fundamental social institution, treated unequally in the eyes of the law, and told that our deep, committed, loving relationships are inferior, counterfeit, or depraved. In the face of such injustice, "that's how I was raised" sounds hollow and cowardly.

There are those who bristle at any analogy between homophobia and racial injustice. Indeed, a favorite new right-wing strategy is to claim that liberals unfairly label as "bigots" anyone who opposes same-sex marriage, even on the basis of sincere moral and religious convictions.

But that's one reason why the analogy is so powerful, and so revealing. It shows that citing "sincere moral and religious convictions" doesn't get one a free pass for maintaining unjust institutions.

No analogy compares two things that are exactly the same. (That would not be an analogy, but an identity.) Analogies compare two or more things that are similar in some relevant respect(s). The similarities can be instructive.

The white citizens of Montgomery County, Georgia, seem like a nice enough bunch. They don't carry pitchforks or wear hooded robes. I doubt that Miss Boone ever uses the n-word, although her grandparents probably do. (Mine did, too, until we grandchildren protested loudly enough.) They are otherwise decent folk misled by powerful tradition.

I'm sure that, pressed for further explanation, many of these folks could make the right noises about doing what's best for their children and eventual grandchildren. And much like "that's just what we know," that response would sound familiar. Opponents of marriage equality use it constantly.

But don't marriage-equality opponents have social-science data backing them up? They don't. Yes, they have data about how children fare in fatherless households, for example, and then they extrapolate from that data to draw conclusions about lesbian households. The problem is that there are too many confounding variables. So then they fall back on their "vast untested social experiment" argument: we just don't know how this is going to turn out. Which, again, is precisely the sort of thing we might expect the Montgomery parents to say to justify their "tradition."

From the fact that two groups of people use the same forms of argument, it doesn't follow that their conclusions are equally good or bad. It depends on the truth of their premises.

Still, the tendency of both segregationists and marriage-equality opponents to hide behind "that's how I was raised" provides a powerful analogy-in moral laziness.