Embracing Hate Isn’t a Good Idea

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  1. posted by Matthew on

    Inability to be manipulated by the opposite sex by means of sexual intercourse or suggestion thereof is not the same as hate. Furthermore, why should we take seriously anyone who supports the transcult or believes it’s acceptable to use the q-word to describe homosexuality? Always pay attention to the semantics.

    My God, the last sane people left on the left are g*nd*r-critical radical feminists, the ones who remind me most of the second-wavers and Southern lesbians I was acquainted with when I came out of the closet. They were the ones who challenged the inherently sexist and homophobic idea that semi-arbitrary social customs define male and female rather than human biology. And they, like gay conservatives, are routinely marginalized and targeted for all sorts of harassment — and worse — by the Regressive Left. I seriously doubt the biggest threat to women’s rights today is a perceived return to unreconstructed 1950s style “women belong in the kitchen” male chauvinism. It’s from those on the Left who turn a blind eye to the calculated attacks on lesbian and gay male spaces, identity, bodies, history, and present-day culture because some, but not all, of the perpetrators are those who are just a tiny shade darker than Hitler.

  2. posted by Tom Scharbach on

    It’s a free country and they can hate whomever they wish to hate, But it’s neither moral nor uplifting. It’s just hate.

    The article talks about reclaiming a classic male put-down — “man-hating lesbian” — not about hating in the sense of “I hate men.” Don’t confuse the two or generalize.

    What the article calls for — reclaiming “man-hating lesbian” and tossing it back at the men who use it as a put down — is no different than the way in which gay men of my generation reclaimed “faggot” in the 1970’s and 1980’s and tossed it back at the straight men who used it to put us down, or the way in which young blacks today reclaim “nigger” in rap and toss it back at whites who would use it to put them down if the whites thought that they could get away with it, or the way in which many Jews reclaimed “kike”, “hymie” and other anti-Semitic put downs over the years.

    I suppose that a few gay men hate straight men, a few young blacks hate whites and a few Jews hate the goyim, but they are few and far between. What the article is talking about it is fighting back, not hating.

    I think that it is a good thing to challenge put-downs, to toss them right back, to fight back. Put up with shit and nothing changes. That’s the message of the article.

    The present fascinating in this respect. The old, white men (along with the white women who enable them) forming the core of the conservative base are terrified by BLM and the #MeToo movement, talking about “angry mobs” when there are none, redefining anger as “hate” and generally pissing their pants about both movements.

    I suspect that’s because they can see the writing on the wall — the days of mindless, culturally normative, white, straight male supremacy are coming to an end, and then that happens, they won’t be the only ring in the circus.

    • posted by Matthew on

      PoundMeToo is an anti-male witch hunt led by a pro-pedophile homophobe.

    • posted by Matthew on

      “I suppose that a few gay men hate straight men, a few young blacks hate whites and a few Jews hate the goyim”

      Yeah, the ones who are paying attention. There is a huge difference between hate for hate’s sake and hate as a response to hate. You need to learn that distinction and learn it quickly.

      And you have a lot of nerve complaining about old white men when you are one yourself, Uncle Tom Krautbach. “We” did not reclaim anti-gay hate speech. Breeders forced it on us along with the q-word and the cult of jenn-durr in order to control the dialogue on what words are acceptable to refer to homosexuality. The Hate Speech Reclamation Movement is a complete failure because it has enabled the oppressor classes to continue their oppression. Those same old white straw men you set up to project your own personality problems onto are the same ones pushing it. It was bullshit then, and in the wake of renewed attacks on women’s rights and gay rights from the stealth homophobe Regressive Left.

      • posted by Matthew on

        It was bullshit then, and in the wake of renewed attacks on women’s rights and gay rights from the stealth homophobe Regressive Left, it’s an even bigger pile of bullshit now.

    • posted by Jorge on

      I think that it is a good thing to challenge put-downs, to toss them right back, to fight back.

      I do not think “reclaiming” racial, ethnic, sex, or religious stereotypes, whether they are slurs are not, is a good thing. It serves only to reinforce the negative messaging of inferior other.

      Most people switch their language on and off when they go into different settings. Saying that one hates men is unacceptable in mixed company, regardless of the context, and a lot of people treat the internet as if it is a safe space when it is actually mixed company.

      While I believe very strongly in safe spaces where one should speak freely (see Hulk Hogan and Gawker), the boundaries we observe among ourselves in intimate settings in my view reveals something about a person’s character and trustworthiness that extends into mixed company.

      • posted by Matthew on

        The non-black non-Jewish races and all forms of hetero-rape-ual perversion deserve every derogatory statement they’ve ever received and a whole lot more.

    • posted by Matthew on

      Hate speech is only hate speech when the white heterosexual gentile oppressor classes use it to marginalize their gay black Jewish superiors. If they weren’t inferior, then they would not need to build a culture of oppression to prop up their inferior asses. Whites, gentiles, and heterosexuals will never get ahead on a level playing field and they know it. That’s why they hate us. They hate us because they fear us. They fear us because we’re better than they are and they know it. That’s why they institute policies and social customs that have no other purpose than to try to tear us down and project their inferiority onto us.

      There is a master race, but the white race isn’t it.

    • posted by Matthew on

      Jews never reclaimed any of those slurs. You goyim forced them on us in order to try and control the narrative about what constitutes an acceptable response to goyische blasphemy and hate speech. Goyism is hate speech against God.

  3. posted by Tom Scharbach on

    There is a huge difference between hate for hate’s sake and hate as a response to hate. You need to learn that distinction and learn it quickly.

    Hate is neither a necessary not a productive response to hate. MLK taught us that. Bayard Rustin taught us that. Rav Hirschorn and the sages over the centuries taught us that.

    Hate does nothing to change anything. All hate does is corrode our own souls. That is a lesson you may learn over time, or not.

    • posted by Tom Scharbach on

      Should read: “Hate is neither a necessary nor a productive response to hate.”

    • posted by Matthew on

      “MLK taught us that. ”

      And he still got murdered. Malcolm X didn’t get murdered until after he renounced violence, although in that case that was an inside job by Calypso Louie on behalf of the CIA.

    • posted by Matthew on

      Two words: Neville Chamberlain.

    • posted by Matthew on

      “Hate does nothing to change anything.”

      This is the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever read. The Hebrews’ hatred of the Pharoah and his racist attempts to enslave a superior race was justified. The Founding Fathers’ hatred of King George III for his tyrannical treatment of the colonies was justified. Freeblacks’ hatred of white slavers was justified. All the people the Nazis tried to kill are justified in hating them back. The Archie Bunkers of the world justify any and all forms of retaliation the George Jeffersons of the world. THE JEFFERSONS is one of the greatest TV shows of all time in no small part because hatred of the cracker breeder goy oppressor class is justified and it did nothing to stop George from movin’ on up. Living next door to Archie Bunker for four years would make Pat Boone hate whitey. Gays, Jews, and black people have earned the right to hate the oppressor classes because they are still trying to find new and creative ways to destroy us. But you Regressive Left Uncle Tom gay ghetto trash are so self-loathing that you’d rather attack gay Republicans than Muslim homophobes.

      • posted by Jorge on

        The Hebrews’ hatred of the Pharoah and his racist attempts to enslave a superior race was justified.

        As I recall, it did not do much for Moses when he killed an Egyptian. A fellow who was indeed of superior morals and temperament asked in response, are you going to kill me next?

        • posted by Matthew on

          So you don’t believe in Adam and Eve but Moses is another story, huh? This is what is called “trying to have it both ways.” Calling the Adam and Eve story “a pretext for rape” is antisemitic. Turning your back on the Jewish God and the Jewish faith is a form of antisemitism, a sin great enough to justify verbal retaliation.

      • posted by JohnInCA on

        You’re confusing “necessary” with “justified”.

        Yes, hatred can be justified. That still doesn’t make it necessary.

        • posted by Matthew on

          Tell that to the oppressor classes. They started it. Being nice to them just enables them to oppress us even more. Why shouldn’t we be allowed to use so-called “hate speech” to let off steam at our anger at the vile machinations of the white heterosexual gentile Axis of Oppression?

          • posted by JohnInCA on

            Being nice to them just enables them to oppress us even more.

            Don’t be absurd. How “hateful” or “nice” the oppressed are is irrelevant to the actions of the oppressor, and suggesting it is, is just a way of victim-blaming.

            That said, you are of course allowed to use whatever speech you want (hateful or otherwise). Despite how much some folks rant about it, “hate speech” is not a legal concept in America and our Freedom of Speech remains unparalleled in the rest of the world.

            Further, you are still arguing “necessary” with “justified”.

          • posted by Matthew on

            Treason isn’t free speech. As far as I’m concerned, anti-gay anti-Jewish anti-black speech is hate speech and hate speech is a capital crime. Hammurabi had the right idea. Those who speak hate speech should have their tongues cut off and those who type it should have their fingers cut off.

            The 9/11 attackers were all non-black non-Jewish non-gay men, just like the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter. Goyism is hate speech against God.

            Anti-white “racism” is white people’s fault for projecting their inferiority onto black people. In that same vein, homophobia is heterosexuals’ fault for projecting their inferiority onto gays, and antisemitism is gentiles’ fault for projecting their inferiority onto the Jews. And how you can attack me but let the white heterosexual gentile oppressor class off the hook is beyond me. Even when they try to pander to gays, Jews, and black people by supporting Regressive Leftist socio-economic policies that are counterproductive to progress, they reveal their privilege in subtle ways. Racism is not always as obvious as ALL IN THE FAMILY would make you believe.

  4. posted by Kosh III on

    The slippery slope of “religious freedom.”
    South Carolina is lobbying to allow discrimination against Jewish parents

    • posted by Tom Scharbach on

      From the article: “That discrimination would apply not just to Jewish parents, but also to parents who are Muslim, Catholic, Unitarian, atheist, agnostic or other some other non-Protestant Christian denomination.

      This is an inevitable result of the RFRA overreach that conservatives have been pushing for the last several years.

      I don’t have a problem with private (that is, non-government-funded) adoption agencies drawing whatever lines they deem appropriate. I do have a problem with state-funded agencies taking government funds and being allowed to discriminate in ways that the government cannot discriminate.

    • posted by Matthew on

      Then it’s time to amend the constitution to make Judaism the National Religion of the United States.

      • posted by Tom Scharbach on

        Uh, huh. Which? Orthodox? Modern Orthodox? Conservative? Reform? Reconstructionist? Progressive? Even Israel hasn’t managed to sort that out.

        • posted by Matthew on

          All of them. Antisemites think we’re all the same anyway, whereas Jews who are not too chickenshit to stand up to the goyim know that all goyim are blasphemers against the Jewish God. Nazism was just the culmination of 2,000 years of unchecked blasphemy against the Jewish God. If the UN is to be believed, we’ve only got 12 years to get rid of the oppressor classes before they make the Earth completely uninhabitable. Communism doesn’t go far enough and neither does Nazism, and they were both the products of antisemitic German heterosexual gentile trash. Socialism is an invention of 19th century French antisemites, and all variations on it (Communism, Fascism, Nazism, etc.) rely on stereotypes of the Jew as being a soulless money-grubber for their existence. Let it die along with the Confederacy.

      • posted by Tom Scharbach on

        All of them.

        Interesting mish-mash you are intent on creating.

        So what do you make of the discussions of non-binary sexuality in Talmud and Mishna? The Talmudic rabbis seem to have clearly understood that physical sexual characteristics and gender are independent variables.

        Taking that into consideration, all of the unions seem to recognize that both tzedek and briyut require some level of accommodation of gender diasphoria.

        Although some Orthodox treat sex/gender is immutable binaries, other Orthodox authorities recognize the medical necessity of sex reassignment as well as the efficacy of sex reassignment surgery (SRS) in changing halachic sex designation. The Conservative union approved a rabbinic ruling that concluded that sex reassignment surgery is permissible as a treatment of gender dysphoria, and that a transgender person’s sex status under Jewish law is changed by sex reassignment surgery. Both Reform and Reconstructionist unions have issued statements and halachic rulings that support sex reassignment treatment.

        I wonder, frankly, if you would be as pleased to see Judaism (in any of its many flavors) become the “National Religion of the United States”. For this and many other reasons, based on what you’ve written over the last few months.

        • posted by Matthew on

          Spoken like a true antisemitic Kraut. Hitler would be proud of you. You have made the case against Jewish assimilation with goyische blasphemers and against the continued tolerance of heterosexuality. You dirty fucking Krauts also had a hand in pushing the transcult. It was part of Dr. Mengele’s experiments.

          And the Church of England will marry trannies but not gays. Good going, Henry VIII. Banning all non-homosexual sexuality and all non-Jewish religion will take care of this, in accordance with Leviticus 24:19-21 (the “eye for an eye” passages).

          Co-opting Jewish religious texts to support the erasure of God’s gay and lesbian children is a sin. The Torah overrides the Talmud anyway, and Genesis 1:27 states:

          So God created humankind in his own image; in the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.

          Maybe it’s time for an even more Ultra-Ultra-Ultra-Orthodox form of Judaism, one that makes transcultism and heterosexuality illegal under God’s Law. Think of it as Ultra-Ultra-Ultra-Orthodox Judaism combined with Ultra-Ultra-Ultra-Orthodox Homosexuality.

        • posted by Matthew on

          The Reform and Reconstructionist movements are also hotbeds of anti-Israel sellouts who are usually the first to sell the Jews out to the Slaveocrat Party in order to appease the racist goyim. And that still didn’t stop the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter.

          I’m gay, I’m Jewish, and I’m a Republican. And if you love this country, so are you.

          • posted by Tom Scharbach on

            I’m gay, I’m Jewish, and I’m a Republican.

            You forgot the black. You need to do a better job keeping your story straight.

          • posted by Tom Scharbach on

            Maybe it’s time for an even more Ultra-Ultra-Ultra-Orthodox form of Judaism …

            The only form of Judaism that would meet your requirements would have a single adherent.

          • posted by Tom Scharbach on

            The Torah overrides the Talmud anyway …

            Torah she bich tav without Torah she beal peh is incomplete as is Torah she beal peh without Torah she bich tav. Torah consists of both Torah she bich tav and Torah she beal peh.

          • posted by Matthew on

            Genetically inferior fucking Kraut scum like you only care about Jews when you can twist and turn both the Torah and the Talmud to support gay erasure like your countryman Dr. Mengele:

            “Josef Mengele, The Angel Of Death, and other Nazi doctors tortured men, women and children and did medical experiments of unspeakable horror during the Holocaust. Victims were put into pressure chambers, tested with drugs, castrated, frozen to death. Children were exposed to experimental surgeries performed without anesthesia, transfusions of blood from one to another, isolation endurance, reaction to various stimuli. The Nazi doctors made injections with lethal germs, sex change operations, removal of organs and limbs.”

            Meanwhile, the Church of England will perform transcult “weddings” but not same-sex weddings. Transcultism depends on the same chemicals used to sterilize Alan Turing as his reward for saving England from the Nazis. More proof that tolerance of goyism, especially the Christo-Islamic menace, is dragging the Jews down to their perverted and depraved level. Why do you hate Jews and gay people, you dirty fucking Kraut?

            “The only form of Judaism that would meet your requirements would have a single adherent.”

            The hell it would. Goyism will be destroyed one way or another as time has already refuted its idiotic lies. The transcult and the PIV-rape cult will be destroyed along with it for their role in distorting the Torah to promote gay erasure, not to mention your obvious misogyny in believing that men have any right to appropriate womanhood from women.

          • posted by Matthew on

            “You forgot the black.”

            That goes without saying, you filthy fucking cracker Kraut!

    • posted by Jorge on

      I’m legitimately undecided about this one.

      It seems to me that an agency that does “really good work” parenting children, much like any parent that is a real person and not an agency, should be given the deference to make its own value decisions about how children should be raised.

      I just have too many questions about workability.

      • posted by Matthew on

        Agencies? You mean like the same ones that handle adoptions and the foster care system? Those are usually done on state and local levels, IIRC, not the federal level as per the 10th amendment.

        • posted by Jorge on

          (Wha? Matthew making a serious legal point on federalism? Or am I reading too much into this? Wait, no, irrelevant.)

          The federal government has a way of giving states and local agencies money to practice good (big*cough*vernment) civics. Law enforcement and foster care services are prime examples. They get lots of money, but in the process they have to play by the federal government’s rules. Rules which change every so often. If you don’t play by the rules, you don’t get money.

          It’s not always a means of control by the feds, though. Many government and private agencies innovate on their own dime, doing some things the federal government refuses to pay for, while receiving federal dollars for their basic programs. Probably the most well known example of this split is Planned Parenthood.

          As for why an adoption agency has to ask for money directly from the federal government instead of being paid entirely by the state which can decide on its own whether to bite the bullet of non-compliance, that is a little beyond my understanding at the moment.

          • posted by Matthew on

            After getting away with a silent gay fetal holocaust for two generations, Planned Parenthood is now a transcult enabler. Yet PLAGAL refuses to do anything to stand up to the transcult, either, effectively making them just another stealth Regressive Left ex-gay recruitment facility. When both the pro-choice and pro-life sides are transcult enablers, then the War on Homosexuality is really a two-front war that both the Religious Wrong and the secular Regressive Left are responsible for enabling. That means the government has been paying to kill gay people before we are even born.

            I will gladly devote as much money and time as I can spare to supporting anti-trans pro-gay politicians, companies, political parties, and organizations. I am prepared to do whatever it takes to stop transcultism even if we have to ban heterosexuality itself to do it.

  5. posted by Tom Scharbach on

    As a side note to Kosh’s note on South Carolina, I notice that the petition for cert was filed last Friday in Klein v. Oregon Bureau of Labor and Industries.

    The petition asks the Court to overturn Justice Scalia’s opinion in Employment Division v. Smith , which held (to use Justice Scalia’s words) “the right of free exercise does not relieve an individual of the obligation to comply with a valid and neutral law of general applicability on the ground that the law proscribes (or prescribes) conduct that his religion prescribes (or proscribes).”

    If the Court grants cert, I suspect that this will be one of the most carefully watched cases of the Term. You will recall that the Court avoided a substantive decision in Masterpiece, remanding the case for consideration of bias but not addressing the core issues.

  6. posted by JohnInCA on

    Man-hating dykes?

    Heh, you want to see a real man-hater, listen to country-songs written by women. Lesbians got nothing on women country singers.

    • posted by Matthew on

      I’d prefer to listen to Henry Higgins extolling the virtues of the male sex.

      • posted by Jorge on

        And, you’re so vain you probably think this song is about you…

        Literally the only man-hating song I can think of. Subtly woman-hating songs, on the other hand, are dime a dozen.

        • posted by Matthew on

          “Subtly woman-hating songs, on the other hand, are dime a dozen.”

          Like 66% of hip-hop and gangsta rap recordings and 50% of post-Beatles rock songs.

  7. posted by David Bauler on


  8. posted by Tom Scharbach on

    A quiet note: “Speech has power. Words do not fade. What starts out as a sound, ends in a deed.” Rav Abraham Herschel

    • posted by Matthew on

      “Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and, under a just God, cannot long retain it.” — Abraham Lincoln

      • posted by David Bauler on

        Says the bigoted, nasty man who wants to deny freedom to other people…..

  9. posted by MR Bill on

    As I type this, 8 dead, 12 shot at Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburg PA…by a man opposing a proimmigration Jewish group.

    • posted by Matthew on

      He was also a Trump hater and used Jews and Israel to justify his hatred. I’ll remember this (along with the race riots in Boston over school busing in the 1970s along with the fact that Oregon used to ban black people from living there) next time someone tries to claim the South has a monopoly on bigotry in the United States.

      After this, my tolerance for any form of blasphemy against the Jewish God has gone from zero to less than zero, and it can never be restored no matter what. Convert to Judaism and vote Republican or all you goddamn commie goyim are going to get us all killed before the next time a Nazi scumbag can strike. Nazis and Commies are both of the left like all forms of totalitarianism and collectivism past, present, and future.

      Goyism is the root cause of homophobia, racism, and every other prejudice in the book. Goyim stole the Torah and distorted it to turn it into a weapon of hate. All goyim everywhere are collectively responsible for this vile act of goyische terrorism. Goyism is terrorism against God. Being a goy is scarcely different than being a Nazi because Nazism was just the culmination of 2,000 years of unchecked unpunished goyische blasphemy. And if the Jews, specifically American Jews, are at fault for anything, it’s for being too lenient with the oppressor classes and for being too willing to throw Israel under the bus to appease racist Paleswinenazi-loving Slaveocrat goyim like that meay-mouthed stealth racist crypto-terrorist Jimmy Cracker, whoops I mean Carter, who needs to fucking die for all his enabling of camel jockey cracker breeder goy terrorism and double die for using Jesus to justify camel jockeys stealing land from Jews, when the Jesus myth was invented to justify the Romans’ illegal and immoral goy occupation of Judea after the fact.

      Unlike the Jews, who are ONLY non-black race or ethnicity with any business calling ourselves anything other than “white,” camel jockeys are crackers and thus part of an oppressor class. Telling Jews not to refer to those racist sexist anti-semitic homophobic sand crackers as camel jockeys is antisemitic, and antisemitism is racism. We Jews, especially gay Jews, will use any words we like to refer to the oppressor classes, and you will not censor us, replace us, or do anything to contradict our words and teachings for any reason whatsoever. Goyism is hate speech against God.

    • posted by Matthew on

      And just for this, Vanessa Redgrave should be shot. She’s worse than Jane fucking Fonda, and that’s saying something. If they won’t do that, at least revoke her Oscars for using the ceremony as a platform to spread anti-Israeli xenophobia, antisemitism, and just plain old cracker breeder goy racism against her superiors. It makes me sick that anyone still casts her in anything today.

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