Laughing With Us

Lesbians are funny.

Just a few years ago, this wasn't obvious. Lesbians were stereotyped as angry and whining. In fact, lesbians were thought to take things way too seriously, to become offended by any slip of the tongue. It was dangerous to talk to lesbians, because if you said something wrong, they might choke you with their flannel shirt, or run you over with their motorcycle.

Remember this joke?

Q: How many lesbians does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: That isn't funny.

Gay men had camp. Lesbians had anger.

We were the gay community's wet blanket.

But now lesbians are starting to be seen in a new light. We've got Rosie (who, OK, sometimes falls into the anger category, but still - she produces the Big Gay Sketch Show.) We've got Lily Tomlin. We've got Kate Clinton, Suzanne Westenhoefer, Marga Gomex, Julie Goldman. We've even sort of got Margaret Cho, who identifies as queer and bisexual, though usually seems more like she's a gay man in drag.

Best of all, we've got Ellen, who almost single handedly has helped America find lesbians to be endearingly funny.

Here's a joke from her, back when she did standup: "My grandmother started walking five miles a day when she was sixty. She's ninety-seven now, and we don't know where the hell she is."

See? Lesbians are funny. And not just to other lesbians. Lesbians are funny to THE ENTIRE WORLD (or at least the English-speaking, non-fundamentalist part of it. Westenhoeffer has made the point that people in the Bible Belt often will just not find lesbians funny, no matter how funny the lesbian actually is. Their morals keep them from laughing.)

Why the change? Why are lesbians seen as funny now when they were seen as angry before? Well, it partly must be because of Ellen's wide audience and general folksiness. But it may also be due in part to the changing role of women.

Vanity Fair's April cover story examined the reasons why women comedians are now appreciated more than ever. It used to be, they say, that women were not considered funny at all (maybe because men valued male cut-ups, but women with wit were frightening and liberated). Women as a group were thought to have no a sense of humor.

But expectations for women and women's roles are changing. As women are more accepted in every level of society, they become more accepted as comedians, too. And women are more likely to let themselves be funny, and to hone their humor.

Or maybe there's an easier answer. Cable. "There are so many hours to fill, and they ran out of men, so then there were women," Nora Ephron joked to VF.

But straight women have an added burden. No longer is it enough that they are funny - now they have to be sexy and glamorous as well, in order to make it big.

As Vanity Fair points out, "It used to be that women were not funny. Then they couldn't be funny if they were pretty. Now a female comedian has to be pretty-even sexy-to get a laugh."

Female straight comedians have to be sexy. But lesbian comedians? Lesbian comedians have a pass. They can be attractive - Ellen certainly is - but they don't have to take the stage in stilettos and a cocktail dress. Audiences understand that lesbians aren't out to attract men, so they're not held to the same high beauty standards as straight women comedians.

Lesbians are outsiders, so they are expected to poke sharp fun at political figures and "regular" people. They are expected to have a quirky, non-mainstream, even shocking perspective.

And they are more free to have the range of physical attractiveness that men have. When's the last time that a male comedian was expected to be handsome?

Lesbian comedians are lucky that way. They don't have to be sexually seductive in order to seduce the audience into laughing. Instead, they can be more like Lucille Ball, emphasizing the comical over their cup size.

The fact that lesbians are becoming more accepted as funny is lucky for the gay community, too. Laughter is a great way to win people over. It's how outsiders have insinuated themselves into the mainstream from time immemorial.

Someday, our funny women might help us laugh all the way to our full civil rights.

Young Gay Rites

In the New York Times Magazine, a young gay man writes about young gay men being far more relationship-oriented these days:

But young gay men today are coming of age in a different time from the baby-boom generation of gays and lesbians who fashioned modern gay culture in this country - or even from me, a gay man in his early 30s. While being a gay teenager today can still be difficult and potentially dangerous (particularly for those who live in noncosmopolitan areas or are considered effeminate), gay teenagers are coming out earlier and are increasingly able to experience their gay adolescence. That, in turn, has made them more likely to feel normal. Many young gay men don't see themselves as all that different from their heterosexual peers, and many profess to want what they've long seen espoused by mainstream American culture: a long-term relationship and the chance to start a family.

The article comes complete with photographs that look like 1950s advertisements. Changing times, indeed!

Student Teachers

Columnist, philosopher, and IGF contributor John Corvino's lecture defending the morality of homosexuality was cancelled by Aquinas College, a Catholic school in Michigan. Seeking to justifying their decision, college administrators badmouthed Corvino to boot.

But students, who have an inconvenient tendency to think for themselves, hosted him anyway, moving the lecture off campus. And gave him a standing ovation. (News video here.) Kudos to Aquinas's students for delivering an object lesson to their elders.

Laughing Matters

When is it ok to tell a gay joke? Consider three scenarios:

First scenario. In a magazine interview, a person says this: "The one thing I always say that I really, really mean is I should have had a gay son. [My child] doesn't care that Ann Miller can tap without shoes. Doesn't care! This breaks my heart. I've put on the Sirius show-tunes channel in the car and [she] gets upset with me. This is not right!"

Second scenario. In a meeting with an important client, a senior partner in a law firm tells a joke in which he makes light of gay men's attachment to feminine things. The joke ends with the punch-line, "Faggot!"

Third scenario. An interviewer asks a guest who previously starred as an openly gay character on television to turn to the camera and give the audience his "gayest look."

Based only on the information provided, are these jokes all anti-gay? Are all acceptable? Are some acceptable and others not?

From early on, we learn not to make fun of others in a way that is hurtful and demeaning to them. Polite people don't make fun of others' physical and mental infirmities, for example. Jokes about mentally retarded people are the sign of a cad, not a bon vivant.

We also learn that jokes directed against some groups of people - like racial and religious minorities - can be especially harmful because of the discrimination, stigma, and even violence the members of these groups have historically faced. Jokes at the expense of other groups of people - like politicians or lawyers - don't raise the same kinds of concerns because the targets of the fun aren't disadvantaged.

Jokes are often funny when they rely on some generalization about members of the group - some trait or characteristic they are widely believed to share, whether true or not. For this reason, a joke that made fun of Republicans for being too compassionate toward the poor or that took a jab at Moveon.org for being biased in favor of conservatives wouldn't work.

But this same reliance on stereotypes can reinforce prejudice. And prejudice is the first step toward harmful discrimination. Consider jokes that refer to blacks as stupid, lazy, or criminal; or that treat Jews as conspiratorial, undeservedly rich, or miserly. Though properly protected by the First Amendment, such jokes are socially unacceptable because they reinforce harmful prejudgments about these groups.

What's acceptable when it comes to joking about gay people? Very few of us would take the extreme position that it's never acceptable for anyone ever to tell a joke of any kind about gays. Even the gay-media watchdog group, the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), is not so humorless.

Jokes about gays are not necessarily objectionable simply because they exploit some kinds of stereotypes about gays. Think of the stereotype of gay men as promiscuous, effeminate, and obsessed with couture and entertainment. These stereotypes were the basis for much of the humor in Will & Grace, which was a breakthrough triumph for the equal treatment of homosexuals on television. (For this reason, the attempted humor in Scenarios 1 and 2 isn't necessarily objectionable on this ground, though it may be for other reasons.)

At the same time, there has been a history of anti-gay discrimination, stigma, and violence that should make us sensitive to the ways in which we joke about homosexuals.

So gays are neither in the category in which are all jokes are presumptively objectionable nor in the category in which all are presumptively acceptable. How do we know when the line is crossed?

There is no bright-line answer applicable to all cases. Everything depends on context. In the three scenarios above, it's impossible to know whether the jokes are "anti-gay" without knowing much more.

The audience matters. If I told you that the person in Scenario 1 was speaking to a general audience magazine, like Time, you might be at least uneasy that she was exploiting stereotypes of gay men as frivolously obsessed with Hollywood and Broadway. If I said she was being interviewed by a gay men's magazine, this concern would be muted. In fact, it was Joan Rivers speaking to Instinct, a periodical for gay men that focuses on celebrities, fashion, and gossip.

The identity and history of the speaker matter. If I told you, for example, that the "senior partner" in Scenario 2 is openly gay, you'd have one kind of reaction. If I said he was a homophobic straight man who believed he was speaking to other heterosexual men, you'd be more concerned. In fact, the latter was true. It happened in my presence when I was a young lawyer and not yet out at my law firm.

Lots of intangibles matter, too, like whether the joke was told in a mean-spirited way or employed stereotypes in a way that undermined the stereotypes themselves. In Scenario 3, the very idea of a giving a "gay look" to a camera is so completely ridiculous that it might be making fun of benighted people who think there is a distinctively "gay look" one can give. In fact, it was Jay Leno on the Tonight Show speaking to actor Ryan Phillipe.

The latter cases are the hardest ones to judge. GLAAD objected to Leno's attempted humor and Leno subsequently apologized. I'm not so sure. It was an awkward moment and not very funny. But bad comedy is not necessarily bad comedy.

We Are Everywhere

Rain had snarled Nairobi's traffic, so after waiting at a standstill for almost two hours, our driver Daniel roared over the divider, faced the oncoming traffic for a harrowing few seconds, and pulled into a side road.

It was really more path than road, alternating between muddy ditches and dust. But we weren't the only ones to take it. So many of us did that we were only prowling around at about three miles an hour, giving us plenty of time to look at the locals - and for the locals to look at us.

This could have been one of the Nairobi slums where post-election violence ripped lives apart a few months ago. A ditch between houses colleted waste; children were without shoes. The buildings huddled close to the road, so close to us it seemed we could touch them if we stuck our arms out wide enough.

The locals lined up to watch the parade of cars go through, and it felt like a parade, like a festival, with people smiling and waving at us and all of us waving back.

One woman caught my attention. She had a butch energy about her, and was wearing a rugby shirt, a long, patterned skirt, a bald head and a vivid smile. She was in her mid-twenties, I thought, or perhaps five years younger.

When the van stopped, waiting for traffic ahead to move forward, she sauntered around to the front of the van, stopping at the open window of a pretty, dark-haired woman I'll call Ann.

"Hello," the Kenyan purred, sliding her elbows onto the window. "How are you?"

I almost laughed in shock and recognition. If she had said, "How YOU doin'" in a dark lesbian bar, it would have sounded exactly the same - as a come on.

"Fine," Ann said briskly. She's straight - I'm not sure she saw it as anything but a friendly gesture. "How are you?"

"I'm gooood. And what's your name?" The van moved forward with a jerk. The Kenyan stayed alongside it for a while, fingertips resting on the van, but then fell behind.

A few minutes later, the van stopped again, and the Kenyan, unhurried, took her place again at the window.

"What's your name?" she asked again, in an intimate voice, and then said, "My name is Caroline." The two of them could have been alone. Ann, flustered perhaps, reached into her bag and handed Caroline a rose. We had vases of them in our hotel rooms.

Caroline pressed it to her chest and turned in a circle. Her face glowed. "I'm in love!" she said. "Marry me!" She called out to a friend, "She gave me a rose!"

Sex between men is illegal in Kenya and punishable by jail time. Sex between women is completely invisible and simply doesn't officially happen.

Homosexuality is considered to be un-African, either a curse bestowed by an angry enemy or a Western disease. Former Kenyan president Daniel Arap Moi once said, "Kenya has no room for homosexuals and lesbians."

This attitude is not only wrong - it is dangerous.

An American I met while in Kenya does HIV research in Nairobi - he said that a startling number of "men who have sex with men" weren't aware that HIV/AIDS was transmitted through sex, and could be partly prevented through condoms. And, he said, it's difficult to target a community for education, awareness and treatment when you don't know who exactly they are.

Africa's commitment to fighting AIDS doesn't extend to allowing gays and lesbians civil rights in order to help educate them. There is strong hostility to gay organizing in Kenya, as there is in much of Africa, even for health reasons. So most gays and lesbians go to cruising spots, or to places known for their gay clientele, and then home to their wives and husbands.

They are invisible, or try to be. But they still exist.

Caroline exists.

The rose was still clasped to Caroline's chest when the van started moving again. She reached out with the rose to touch it, and ran forward a few steps when it started to pull away.

"What an intense young man," the only male in our group said.

"She was a woman," all the women replied at once.

The van started moving faster, having reached a portion of clear road. Caroline was left behind, a single hand in the air, waving goodbye.

Alternative Families Under Attack?

I don't mean to be flippant about the possibility of 14-year-old girls being forced into arranged marriages, but it increasingly seems that what's going on with the state seizure of all the children from a fundamentalist Mormon compound in Texas is producing scant evidence (to date) of actual abuse. Scott Henson, in the Dallas News, asks Where's the evidence of abuse?, while blogger Katie Granju queries where is the ACLU? (hat tip: instapundit). She writes:

I cannot express strongly enough how much I believe the state needs to take a strong, unequivocal stance in going after any of these individual adults in this group who have committed crimes against children in the name of religion. However, I am increasingly disturbed by the way the state of Texas is handling this matter. The wholesale rounding up and de facto incarceration of hundreds of women and children-none of whom have been individually accused of any crime-is very troublesome.

Also, David Bernstein at the Volokh Conspiracy and Tim Lynch of the Cato Institute raise similar concerns about a disturbing overreaction by state authorities.

If the breakup of these families is based on the prejudice/contempt that both left-liberals and religious conservatives feel toward fundamentalist Mormons who practice polygamy, it raises issues of basic liberty in America that even those who oppose state-recognition of polygamy should take seriously.

More. Social conservative Rick Lowry may quote our own Jonathan Rauch, but his attempt to blame fundamentalist polygamy on "the liberal wave of nonjudgmentalism and of hostility to traditional marriage" is a stretch.

I did like the commenter to Lowry who suggests if polygamy is a risk factor for child abuse and so we take children away from polygamous homes, should we also not take children away if their single mom moves in with her boyfriend, as that's also known to greatly raise the risk of abuse?

GOP Congressman Cites Lawrence in Defending Polygamous Families . Said Rep. Chris Cannon (R-Utah), as quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune:

"I don't think it's the place of society to prosecute people who choose to cohabitate responsibly and are responsible for their children as opposed to men who are licentious or women who are licentious who are producing children that don't have place or context or male authority in their lives."

As Jonathan Rauch has pointed out, the criminalization and prosecution of polygamous behavior, as opposed to the state's refusal to license polygamous marriage, is unsustainable. It's important to make and sustain this distinction.

Furthermore. The AP reports: Sweep of polygamists' kids raises legal questions. Do tell.

Giving One-Sidedness a Bad Name

Out Magazine published a hatchet job on gay Republicans ("Washington's Gay War") by Charles Kaiser, who interviews Barney Frank and other gay Democrats (on how awful gay Republicans are) without speaking with a single gay Republican.

As Rick Sincere blogs, Kaiser's number one example of gay Republicans is closet-case conservative Terry Dolan, who's been dead for nearly a quarter-century. Sincere also notes:

If, like Kaiser and others cited in his article, you are still mystified as to why there might be gay Republicans in Washington or any other part of the country, take a look at the principles of the Contract with America and other published Republican documents. Read Barry Goldwater's The Conscience of a Conservative . Listen to Ronald Reagan's speech, "A Time for Choosing."

As John Corvino writes, religious right universities are fearful of allowing their students to hear thoughtful arguments for gay equality. But it is also true that the liberal left's academic hothouses have worked diligently to snuff out any hint of an encounter with ideological diversity. So perhaps it's of little wonder that LGBT "progressives" like Kaiser no longer know how to confront opposing ideas through argument that is both reasoned and passionate. Instead, mockery of non-liberals, aimed at fellow true believers in big government social engineering through an increasingly regulatory, redistributionist state, holds sway.

Thank God They Still Have Standards

Headline, front page, Washington Post: "Military Waivers for Ex-Convicts Increase." Story sez:

the Army accepted more than double the number of applicants with convictions for felony crimes such as burglary, grand larceny and aggravated assault, rising from 249 to 511, while the corresponding number for the Marines increased by two-thirds, from 208 to 350.

At least our country can be grateful the Pentagon isn't desperate enough to consider ending the ban on service by open (i.e., truthful) homosexuals. Whether or not ex-felons can protect Iraqis from insurgents, they'll do their part by protecting the showers from sissies. Whew.

Class Dismissed

I'm sometimes criticized by fellow gay-rights advocates for being too accommodating towards our opponents. Why dignify gay-rights opponents with a response?

The simple answer is that, like it or not, homosexuality is an issue on which many thoughtful and decent people disagree. Ignoring this disagreement won't make it go away, so instead I strive for productive dialogue.

Against that background, I was especially disappointed when Aquinas College in Grand Rapids revoked my invitation to speak there on April 3rd, calling me on the morning of the event to "postpone" it, and then canceling it one week later. In announcing his decision, Aquinas President C. Edward Balog cited concerns about a policy gap regarding speakers who are critical of Catholic teaching. Local Bishop Walter Hurley was apparently among those encouraging Balog to cancel the event.

In my sixteen years of speaking on gay rights, only once before have I had an event canceled-in Louisiana, a week following Hurricane Katrina. I have presented at religious institutions, including several Catholic colleges. Indeed, I spoke at St. Ambrose College (Davenport, IA) exactly a week before my scheduled Aquinas lecture. These have all been positive events.

My visit to Aquinas was contracted months in advance, and advertising went on for some time prior to the event. Those who invited me knew my position. I aim to promote respect for gay and lesbian persons by critically examining common arguments against same-sex affection. I am not (any longer) a Catholic, and I oppose key aspects of the Church's teaching. I believe that the case against homosexuality is unsound. That said, I have no interest in distorting Catholic teaching. On the contrary, the more clearly a position is set out, the more rigorously we can discuss it.

So when the organizers asked me how I would feel about having an official Catholic response to my talk, I welcomed the suggestion enthusiastically. This is not because I believe that every campus event needs to present "both sides." For one thing, the idea of "both sides" misleadingly suggests that there are two and only two sides to any issue, equally balanced along a clear and non-arbitrary middle ground. In reality, social issues admit of countless possible positions-some reasonable, some less so, and some beyond the pale. It would be both practically impossible and pedagogically undesirable for every event to include every possible perspective. As one critic of my invitation put it, "What's next? Should we invite the KKK to present their views, too?"

Of course we shouldn't. But the KKK analogy fails, and the reason for its failure is instructive. The reason is the same point I make to my critics in the choir: unlike segregation, homosexuality is an issue on which many thoughtful and decent people still disagree. Ignoring this disagreement won't make it go away, so instead let's strive for productive dialogue.

In short, I welcomed the inclusion of a Catholic response because it was entirely consistent with my aims as an educator. It would manifest Aquinas's identity not just as a CATHOLIC College, but as a Catholic COLLEGE-a place where serious discussion of controversial issues could take place. It was a win-win-win proposal: good for me, good for the administration, and (most important) good for the Aquinas students, who presumably attend college in part to learn about diverse perspectives and how to evaluate them. Shutting down the event robbed us all of a valuable teaching moment.

After the cancellation, President Balog was quoted in the Grand Rapids Press as stating, "We want to explore the issue from an academic perspective, not from the perspective of an antagonistic attack to core Catholic values."

This is a gross mischaracterization of my approach, as anyone with even a passing knowledge of my scholarly research or my public advocacy would recognize. It pains me to see such distortion coming from a Catholic college president.

It pains me as an academic, but it also pains me as a former Catholic. I sometimes joke that I'm not a fallen Catholic, because I didn't fall-I leapt. But the truth is that I still have deep affection and respect for the Catholic faith. Affection, because of relationships with countless priests, nuns, and lay theologians who nurtured me in lasting ways. Respect, because of the Church's intellectual and moral tradition, which takes "big questions" seriously and strives to integrate faith and reason.

That affection and respect are sorely tested today.

Evangelicals’ Awakening

American Public Media's "Speaking of Faith" has a must-listen panel discussion between evangelicals of three generations (Chuck Colson, Greg Boyd, Shane Claiborne). Go to minute 36:45, where homosexuality comes up, and stay tuned for a striking contrast between Colson and the younger men.

Colson answers a question about homosexuality with a doctrinaire natural-law exegisis of Paul. The younger men warn against Colson's hard-edged judgmentalism. Boyd agrees that homosexuality is wrong but can't understand why evangelicals pick on this one moral failing as a "deal breaker" while downplaying so many sins of their own (divorce, e.g.). He argues that evangelicals' reputation for "homophobia" (his word) is well earned and that Jesus ministered to prostitutes, rather than trying to pass laws against them. (Subtext here: the tension between the churches of Paul and Jesus.) Claiborne asks what sort of place the Church has become if it can't minister lovingly to a young gay man who feels like he is one of "God's mistakes" and wants to kill himself. "If that 'mistake' can't find a home in the church, who have we become?" He goes on to condemn the "meanness" of evangelical political style and speaks intriguingly of "post-Religious Right America."

More evidence here that homosexuality has become a major point of generational cleavage among evangelicals. Call me Pollyanna, but I think there's a new awakening of conscience happening among evangelicals and that homosexuality is at the heart of it.

More: Gay evangelical commenter Casey offers more evidence that change is afoot.

I agree with other commenters that the teachings, not just the tone, ultimately need to change. But I think the tone will tend to lead the teachings. And, as Greg Boyd implies in the panel discussion, no theological change is required for evangelicals to stop blowing homosexuality out of all proportion to its very minor role in the Bible. Proportionality alone would be major progress.