At Positive Liberty, Jon Rowe looks at the religious right's arguing that gays are both (1) successful high earners who lead privledged lives and (2) promiscuous, drug addicted alcoholics. Writes Rowe:
I'm sorry but common sense dictates that a social group cannot at once both be that dysfunctional and so successful that their household incomes are almost 80% above the median. That would take hyper functionality. Gays would have to be arguably the most socially functional social group to be that successful.
Of course, the Nazis accused the Jews of being both the bankers and communists.
49 Comments for “Not That They Care That They Don’t Make Sense”
posted by North Dallas Thirty on
Not really.
Britney Spears, Lindsey Lohan, Owen Wilson, and innumerable other Hollywood luminaries manage quite well to be high earners who lead privileged lives and promiscuous, drug-addicted alcoholics.
The stereotype of alcoholics or drug addicts being out-of-work bums laying in gutters is quite unreflective of the majority of the people who qualify as both.
posted by James Clark on
Likewise communist ideologues weren’t usually homeless either.
But this is somewhat trite. I think we all know that you get highly successful and highly unsuccessful people who are gay… Just like “normal” folks.
Generalizations are the province of the ignorant.
posted by Bobby on
I don’t doubt gay success, gays are more likely to have a college education, compared to their straight counterparts.
However, I know that in certain companies it helps to be married to a woman, then you can invite your boss to dinner, your wife becomes friends with his wife, and soon enough get you get that promotion. In the gay world, we don’t have that.
posted by Pat on
I think it’s simply a matter that opponents of gay rights will talk from either side of their mouth when it suits their purposes. Sure, on the one hand we gay people are all promiscuous, drug-addicted alcoholics (when these hypocrites are not looking in the mirror), and do their best to perpetuate it. But when it comes to anti-discrimination laws, they could then point to statistics that gay people, either on average or the median, do better than the general population, to oppose these laws. Of course, this doesn’t help those on the lower end of the income scale who is being discriminated against.
Also, I would be careful on the income statistics anyway. As a commenter on the linked article indicated, these represent the figures for openly gay people. It’s been suggested that those who persons who are educated and are more successful are more likely to be openly gay.
posted by ColoradoPatriot on
Bobby: “In the gay world, we don’t have that.”
Speak for yourself, Bobby. Some of us are proud of our relationships and are not afraid to have the boss and his wife over for dinner.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Hey, I’m proud to admit that the boss’s wife in our family is M-M partner… so he’s at the dinner table everynight -except for Tuesday in the summer when he’s doing the tai chi thing near the banks of the Huron River and I take the family to Zingermanns.
I wouldn’t hazard, however, that most gays are economically advantaged over other non-gay couples; I don’t think that’s true. I guess I’m not worried about what WorldNetDaily reports… or the confused amalgam of what gay’s think the religiousRight is thinking about them… LOL
My experience has been that most of our gay friends (not all) are not upwardly mobile, career advancing or flush with disposable cash. Most gays I know are debt ridden, living paycheck2paycheck, on their 4-5-6th real LTR and still have furnishings left in their household from the 1st LTR move-out and break up. And they seem to spend more on potent potables and shoes than we do.
Is that dysfunctional? To me it is but they seem to thrive on the drama all that ensures. Are they still my friends, you betcha… I just don’t expect ’em to bring beer, wine, a dish to pass or flowers when we invite them over for a Sunday bar-b-q.
But Stephen, was this line even needed?
“Of course, the Nazis accused the Jews of being both the bankers and communists.”
Let’s leave the Nazis in the LAST century, ok? They don’t go well with gays.
posted by Priya Lynn on
Northdallass idiot said “Britney Spears, Lindsey Lohan, Owen Wilson, and innumerable other Hollywood luminaries manage quite well to be high earners who lead privileged lives and promiscuous, drug-addicted alcoholics.
The stereotype of alcoholics or drug addicts being out-of-work bums laying in gutters is quite unreflective of the majority of the people who qualify as both.”
Once again Northdallass tries to claim the exceptions are typical of a group. Hollywood actors aren’t typical people and it certainly isn’t typical for promiscuous drug adicted alcoholics to be top wage earners. While they may not all be out of work bums laying in the gutters they are typically in the lower eschelons of society. Clearly the religious right is totally disingenous and Northdallass liar is right at home with their attempts to opress innocent gays
posted by Priya Lynn on
I might add that it doesn’t take a particularly functional person in the first place to be a hollywood celebrity and despite that Britney Spears’, Lindsey Lohan’s, and Owen Wilson’s careers have all taken sharp downturns since their personal troubles. Northdallass claims to be wealthy, maybe he’s a promicsuous drug addicted alcoholic and that’s why he thinks such people are top performers….Moron…
posted by Charles Wilson on
Most gays I know are debt ridden, living paycheck2paycheck, on their 4-5-6th real LTR and still have furnishings left in their household from the 1st LTR move-out and break up.
And I wonder what your “friends” say about you.
posted by Bobby on
“Speak for yourself, Bobby. Some of us are proud of our relationships and are not afraid to have the boss and his wife over for dinner.”
—My experience with coming out is that people either treat you like you’re weird, like you’re different or like everyone else.
Sometimes you don’t even know if straights are being nice to you because of political correctness, liberal bias or because they simply like you.
So Colorado, you can paint a rosy picture if you like, but the reality is that most heterosexuals are not used to gay couples in real life, maybe they don’t mind them on TV, but in real life is a little bit more awkward.
posted by Jon Rowe on
Thanks for the link and discussion. It looks like this woman now got fired from her position and is going to sue the university which opens a whole new can of worms.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
PriyaLynn, that must be one big mean, ugly chip you’ve got up on your shoulder. I read both NDXXX’s comment and Stephen’s review of Rowe’s piece and NDXXX’s comment doesn’t mention typical anything… you do, repeatedly.
I understood him to say that it isn’t necessarily an either/or proposition (hence his examples of very successful, well-off Hollywood star addicts and their capacity to continue “functioning” in a destructive manner.
And that the two concepts (addictive/destructive conduct and successful appearances) are NOT mutually exclusive. In Hollywood, stars can be viciously addicted and still “function” in the Hollywood star-mode because of well-paid and well-heeled enablers.
You rush off into a rant about “typical” and smear NDXXX left, right and center without honestly noting he didn’t say what you spun it into… it’s a hazard and affliction that seems to be inherent in your depiction of NDXXX’s comments here.
Frankly, there’s no way to explain your intellectual dishonesty except to note that you have some serious baggage in both arms when it comes to NDXXX and anyone who dares disagree with your opinions -no matter how uninformed your opinions might be.
I’d suggest you try to work on getting that big mean ugly chip off your shoulder, leave all that baggage you’re carrying on the front stoop or one day you’ll wake up a blog troll, hunched over from the weight, looking for fights that don’t exist… it isn’t a pretty future.
And, girl, the whole “Northdallass idiot” smear is just lame… you’re lowering yourself to the uncivil trolls who call him North Dallas Liar… see, that big mean ugly chip is wearing you down faster than a tube of lube at FolsomStFair.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
CharlesWilson ponders: “And I wonder what your “friends” say about you.”
I believe in rewarding good conduct, Charles, so I’ll toggle the ignore button “off” for now and answer your question.
Lucky you should ask… this past week, MM-partner and I celebrated our 15th anniversary together with an evening party at our home. We had about 370 guests for dinner, two bands, the pool was heated and of those guests, about 1/2 were gay families like us. Of the 130 invites we sent out, all but three responded… I don’t have to guess because I know our guests had a great time, wished us well in the future and appreciated what the evening meant to our community in Ann Arbor and friends from around the state. Friends from Vermont, DC, Oregon and Arizona joined us.
It was a fun, rewarding, enriching party and a great way to celebrate our continued success with others in our community.
Hope that answers it for you.
posted by Charles Wilson on
MM-partner and I celebrated our 15th anniversary together with an evening party at our home. We had about 370 guests for dinner, two bands, the pool was heated and of those guests, about 1/2 were gay families like us.
Did you get up on the stage and tell them, “Most gays I know are debt ridden, living paycheck2paycheck, on their 4-5-6th real LTR and still have furnishings left in their household from the 1st LTR move-out and break up?”
Or did you follow your usual pattern of lying in their face and saying what you really think behind their backs?
posted by Craig2 on
Er, all this when the current US President once thought ‘things went better with coke’ (and I’m not talking about the pleasant-tasting non-alcoholic beverage…)
One other point, though. Pentecostal BACs like pointing out how depraved they were before they got godbotted. Just do a search for those who did drugs before the event in question…
Craig2
Wellington, NZ
posted by Hank on
MM I usually think you’re way to harsh for someone who is obviously a committed Christian.
But congratulations on your anniversary – and I too wish you many more years of happiness with your guy and your family.
And Priya Lynn, keep up the good work.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Ok Charles, someone tries to be nice to you and provide a response to your query rather than simply ignore you again and that sneering, vengeful meanness comes out of you in full force.
It got you banned and barred from lots of sites from topics as diverse as political commentary to medical issues to travel blogs to community discussion boards to military blogs to gay activism boards. You’ve tried to intimidate blogmasters and peer commenters with threats of legal action, promised to ruin them without mercy. You’re strange little mind, mister.
Some day, some how, some where reality is going to sink in for you. That’s troll-ish behavior, pure and simple Charles.
The ignore button is back ON.
Hank, thanks for the well wishes.
Returning to the thread, I was reminded this morning of the Robert Downey Jr story where he was able to maintain a successful life, graduate into doing black tar heroin and if it hadn’t been for an initial traffic stop, he’d have probably kept right on going. His money quote was about the point NDXXX rightly raised above: RD Jr, “I could have kept going strong in the drug addict’s life because I always had ready cash and willing friends to help me”.
Granted, Robert Downey Jr isn’t gay but he does clearly demonstrate what NDXXX was saying -it can happen: not all bums are in the gutter, just ask Hillary where Bill is.
posted by Charles Wilson on
The ignore button is back ON.
You really ought to dispense with that, MM. Anyone who’s been looking in here knows that you are “ignoring” nothing. How can you, as I catch you in Republican lie after Republican lie after Republican lie? Ha!
p.s.: Woof. Damn.
posted by Priya Lynn on
Michigan matt, Northdallass idiot is a chronic evil liar and you’re his sockpuppet. Yeah, I can’t stand evil liars who attack innocent gays and attempt to smear entire communities with the isolated wrong-doings of rare individuals, what of it. That you would defend a scum bag like him merely highlights your own lack of integrity.
posted by Priya Lynn on
And Michigan Matt, like the biased partisan you are, you missed the point I was raising altogether. It doesn’t matter that there are exceptions to the rule that being a promiscuous drug addicted alcoholic ruins lives, the fact is that is what typically happens and it completely destroys the religious rights ideas that gays in general are both disproportianately successful and mentally ill drug addicts.
posted by Priya Lynn on
And Michigan Matt, before you rant again about how Rowe and Northdallass liar didn’t say “typically” but I did, Rowe refered to gays “as a group” – that means typically and that is what Northdallass Liar responded to so you’re completely out to lunch.
posted by Charles Wilson on
Seeing as how Matt wants to imply that he’s not a Republican, not a wingnut, and not gay, I thought it might be fun to assemble a Gay Michigan-Matt Greatest Moderate Hits list:
Michigan Matt leads wingnut boycott of gay website in Tampa.
Garden variety wingnut Clinton hatred at far right-wing “Gay Patriot” site.
Michigan Matt throws the terrorist card at website he doesn’t like.
Michigan Matt rants against liberals and says (his quotation marks) “gay marriage” comes from the far radical Left.
Someone decries attempted murder of four people in a gay bar. Michigan Matt says: put away the victim/pity card.
posted by Charles Wilson on
And these:
Michigan Matt sides with the American Family Association‘s “clean up TV” campaigns.
“Moderate” Michigan Matt unloads on Democratic Party leadership.
Michigan Matt supports expulsion of high school student for film that showed chest-high pic of two males snuggling in bed, calling it “porn-as-art.”
p.s.: M-M has called it “stalking” to do a Google search on someone’s Internet postings. Yet, as anyone following all of this knows, he and his sock puppets have done exactly that with my Internet postings. The difference between M-M and me is that I don’t object to being Googled. Have at it! But if research is “stalking,” then let’s call what M-M is doing by the name he has picked.
posted by Charles Wilson on
One more thing: M-M quickly dropped the implied claim that he’s not gay, which he made in an earlier posting on the Independent Gay Forum. That was a bit too Craig-ish, wasn’t it, M-M? Ha!
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Priya Lynn, it’s a cruel heavy block of a chip you continue to carry on that shoulder… look to Charles Wilson’s trollish, embittered, mad-dog-angry petulance above… it could be you in less time than Charles can create another ranting spew fest.
No, NDXXX didn’t say anything about it being “typical”. That was YOUR spin -and an ineloquent spin at that.
You tried to diminish his fair and proper observations by dismissing them as lies and misconstructions.
I know being a victim is big business in the FarLeft, but you don’t need to try to play the part… it’ll come soon enough on your very special march to be the new Charles Wilson.
posted by The Gay Species on
My limited experience with Michigan-Matt on “GayPatriot” confirms Charles Wilson’s observations. In one series of rants, M-M apparently discovered the uses of Boolean searches, “uncovered” a biography of mine, and then thought he was “outing” me involuntarily, for disagreeing with his rabidly right-wing ad hominems and near skinhead views. M-M, to his surprise, was only three decades “too late” with his involuntary “outing,” a note other GayPatriot readers found offensive in itself, but only confirms M-M can offend even the rightest of the Right Wing.
BTW, I’ve been “out,” advancing GLBT causes in the workplace, since the 1970s, including the management of Hibernia’s Castro and Headquarter’s facilities, while M-M is shooting himself in the foot (or foaming at the mouth) for “outing” the already “out,” for disagreeing with his rabid right-wing views and ad hominem attacks.
Imagine? Someone thinking “outing” an already “out” gay man for disagreeing with his ad hominem attacks and rabid right-wing and skinhead views does not violate M-M’s standards, which may explain his defenses of Phyllis Schafley, Alan Keyes, and Newt Gingrich. I’ve long since avoided GP, but does he support Reverends Hagee, Paisley, and Wright, too?
Since M-M hides behind a moniker, afraid of being known, I would not take stock in any of his comments — whether he is straight, queer, gay, or mentally unbalanced. That said, I do not want to imply that such concealment is due to the fear of homophobia, or from personal embarrassment of his extreme views, or that M-M’s lack of character refutes his views.
I think his views do that sufficiently on their own. M-M, if closeted gay, gives reasons to stay in the closet, and if straight “parading as gay,” gives reasons to “come out.” Not for his sake, but for the sake of being an open, honest, out-front gay man has many advantages, not the least of which is not being victimized by those who would involuntarily “out” gay men in a self-deceived deviousness in “outing” the “out” to achieve perverse thrills.
M-M has reasons to hide in shame behind his moniker. Unfortunately, M-M has no shame. Perhaps, that shamelessness bears most heavily in the family of resemblances of the views he espouses, which are much closer to Queer Theorists’ views, tactics, and values than he knows.
posted by Charles Wilson on
I guess Michigan Matt has decided to formally “unignore” me. What a child! Speaking of which: M-M, did you hold that fabulous party at Chuck E Cheese, or what? Ha!
posted by North Dallas Thirty on
And that the two concepts (addictive/destructive conduct and successful appearances) are NOT mutually exclusive. In Hollywood, stars can be viciously addicted and still “function” in the Hollywood star-mode because of well-paid and well-heeled enablers.
Excellent point.
And particularly well-emphasized here, in this thread full of individuals who enable such behavior among gay and lesbian people.
The statistics are out there, and they are rather stark.
As this particular source puts it:
Studies show that at least two million gay men and lesbians abuse alcohol and as many as 30 percent of us will need chemical-dependency treatment at some point in our lives — three times the odds facing the general population.
As for promiscuity, the numbers are even more obvious; 90% of all new HIV cases in San Francisco annually are in gay men, just for starters.
The gay community maintains a culture of denial that is both astonishing in its depth and horrifying in its totalitarian view towards anyone who would dare criticize the behavior of another gay person.
Which is why, twenty-five years after the AIDS epidemic first broke, rates of drug abuse and HIV infection are RISING among gay youth.
posted by Charles Wilson on
Ah, North Liar Forty. What are you on a coffee break from your job at Focus on the Family?
posted by PBS on
Of course NDxxxhole only highlights one of the results of societal attitudes regarding gays but ignores those attitudes completely
Would this make a case, then, against the perils of heterosexuality?
1 in 5 Americans between the ages of 15 and 55 are currently infected with one or more STDs, and 12 million Americans are newly infected each year. Some young people have parents who may have had multiple sexual partners with relative impunity. They may conclude that they too are safe from disease. However, most of these diseases were not around 20 to 30 years ago. Ah, we learn from our parents and for the majority of us they are of the heterosexual variety.
posted by Patrick on
Gay Species, that’s interesting observation because I use to read Gay Patroit when you were ranting over there with foaming spittle and I noticed that Michigan-Matt used to TAKE ON the far right views of many there regarding a host of topics from immigration reform and building a wall across the US’s border to whether or not the Republicans COULD and SHOULD wrestle the party away from the influence of the that vast right wing conspiracy. He took a lot heat for it.
I also remember you from GayPatroit and you were one of the biggest barn-burning lefties since Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. No wonder you didn’t like Michigan-Matt; he represents all that you despise and want to silence in America, in the gay community, in life.
Your “claims” of Michigan-Matt hiding behind some moniker is silly and disingenious. He’s been open and candid about his life; both on Gay Patroit, here and other sites.
But silly and disinegious pretty much sums up your comment and that of stalker Charles Wilson, our little racist who thinks people being killed by typhons and cyclones is just “asian stir fry”. Nice crowd you hang with, Gay Species.
Given your hard left leanings, Gay Species, I doubt you’ll ever take anything said by anyone outside your little “San Francisco values” clique. The truth is you, like the many times banned and blog-stalking racist Charles Wilson, don’t think anyone should confront or call your hateful, religiously-bigoted views into constructive criticism. When they do, your precious egghead explodes. Just like in this thread.
How very Obama of you. We’ll just keep clinging to our religion and guns while you tell us what to think. Oh wait, maybe that’s why no one reads your blog… or the blogs of sockpuppet creator Charles Wilson?
posted by Patrick on
By the way, Charles you continue to be banned and barred from sites for using that standard “lying” spew and hate-filled monologues. Are you trying to add YET ANOTHER political blog to the list this week? That would make 3 political blogs that banned your hateful speech, 2 military blogs and an entire military blog network that barred you from comment, a travel site, a medical issues site, a food groupies site (what could you have done to make people so mad even about food ?that ego of yours is supremely extremely out of control), plus barred and banned from community discussion forums, and so forth.
Yep, I guess you’re intent on adding yet another blog to the list of banned sites where your hateful participation is no longer tolerated.
posted by Charles Wilson on
blog-stalking racist Charles Wilson
Wow, you’re really kicking and screaming and stomping your little feet there, aren’t you? What’s next? That I’m … I’m … I’m a poopy-pants? Ha!
posted by ETJB on
Sterotypes are often comforting — they help to demonize people who are somehow different then you. It can be about race, religion, ethnicity, gender, class, disability, politics, sexuality.
Although I suspect that gay people of a certain socioeconomic class are more likely to be out.
posted by Sellia on
Not exactly! What the only difference is that they have different sexual orientation and lifestyle. No other difference. You may get more information about them on BiLoves.com.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Patrick, CharlesWilson is all that and more. By the way, do you have the quote citation where CharlesWilson, our resident racist, declares that typhons or cyclones or tsunamis are just “asian stir fry”?
I know he’s a hatefilled brutish stalking bore, but a racist to boot? No surprise there.
posted by Charles Wilson on
By the way, do you have the quote citation where CharlesWilson, our resident racist, declares that typhons or cyclones or tsunamis are just “asian stir fry”?
I never made that declaration, Matt. Child, when, oh when, are you ever going to tell the truth about something? Good God, is this what the Republican Party has finally come to? Ha!
p.s.: I thought you were ignoring me. Ha!
posted by Patrick on
M-Matt, Charles will continue to deny and lie as long as it suits his interests and then he flames off, stalks another target and begins again.
He did use that very line on a travel blog he frequents -in fact, he bores and abuses people so much there that they’ve come to call the behavoir, “doing a willysnout”.
Charles Wilson is a racist at least where asian people are concerned. He wrote that typhons and cyclones are just “asian stir fry”.
He wrote that after the untold tragic loss of life in Indonesia and when peers challenged him on his racial bigotry, he told them to piss off. He threatened them with legal action if they reported his abusive conduct to the blog masters and thread monitors.
What a great guy. A liar who loves to threaten others. I think that’s a bully?
posted by Charles Wilson on
Charles Wilson is a racist at least where asian people are concerned. He wrote that typhons and cyclones are just “asian stir fry”.
He wrote that after the untold tragic loss of life in Indonesia and when peers challenged him on his racial bigotry, he told them to piss off. He threatened them with legal action if they reported his abusive conduct to the blog masters and thread monitors.
Ha! You have quite an imagination!
posted by Patrick on
I guess your lying is unstoppable, Charles. You were hoping that no one could catch you on your racist remarks… and then, when it didn’t happen immediately, you got emboldened and thought you were in the clear… moving into usual attack mode.
You asked for it: on May 8th at 10:56, using the self-admitted pseudonym of willysnout, you wrote
“So why don’t you call yours typhoons and let the Asians call theirs stir fry?”
When a few commenters took exception to the racially motivated remark and challenged you for making it, you threatened them with “legal actions” if they persisted. You then got your buddies (who are blogmasters of the site) to strike the critical comments and what remains is a shell of the original diatribe.
Now, May8th was just LAST WEEK. Care to explain to all of us why you continued to deny making that comment? You’ve done it in these various IGF threads 4 times now.
Comment made on May 8th but denials from you repeatedly since?? Hmmm? even if you use some lame excuse like it was a joke (which the language and resulting interaction clearly shows it wasn’t for some), you can’t claim to have forgotten making a statement like “asian stir fry”.
Why lie about these things, willysnout or Charles Wilson or wet willy or CW?
BTW, at that site, commenters run a thread called “Most Outrageous Commenter of the Week” and you’ve won by a landslide. People seem to dislike you there as much as they do at Malcontent, Columbia University’s Blue & White blog, Mudville Gazette, Patterico’s Pontifications, Towleroad, DemocratUnderground, GruntDocs, brawnylads (hmmm), BoiFromTroy, Black5, One Marine’s View and dicussion boards on single malt scotch, segway, and microsoft.
The best advice to you, which you have elected to ignore, comes from the segway community discussion board FIVE YEARS AGO… 5 years ago in 2003,
“willysnout, unhook your questions and opinions from your unveiled hostility and personal attacks and cheap shots and you might get your questions answered and your opinions considered. Just a suggestion.”
And, true to form, you replied with anger and stalked the guy and the fouled the Board for months.
Now, what was that about your claim to Michigan-Matt “that I never made that (remark)” about natural disasters in the Pacific being just “asian stir fry”?
And it was only last week!!
I hope somewhere in your character you still have the capacity for bearing shame… because your conduct is shameful, even if you hide behind the smug exterior of someone on a mission of truth.
posted by Charles Wilson on
You asked for it: on May 8th at 10:56, using the self-admitted pseudonym of willysnout, you wrote
“So why don’t you call yours typhoons and let the Asians call theirs stir fry?”
At long last, you told the truth. It’s about time. As you can see, I never call anything “Asian stir fry.” What I did do, within a discussion of whether these storms are called “typhoons” or “cyclones” when they reach Australia, is joke that, when they reach Asia, they could be called “stir fry.”
It doesn’t make me a racist any more than my comment that we ought to stick an electrified fence around Texas to hold them in. Or that, when the next hurricane hits Florida, I’ll be on the side of the hurricane.
You’d think the wingnuts here would be on my side. The board that you refer to often gets a boatload of self-righteous left-wing posts, and if there’s one thing I like to do it is to skewer self-righteousness. It’s fun, but you need a sense of humor. Which is something always in short supply at the ends of the political spectrum.
Oh, you’d like this, too, for when people post the usual anti-American horseshit on that travel board:
It is because Americans are insular, stupid, fat and lazy.
O.K., OP, you got the answer you so needed to stoke your inflated sense of superiority.
Now go away, unless you have a travel question.
Relax, children.
posted by Charles Wilson on
p.s.: I routinely accuse the Australians of being rotten tippers, and carriers of indestructible bedbugs. Every now and then one of them gets mad, but the vast majority know it’s all in fun. Similarly, one Texan hates me, and another Texan laughs about it.
The people who seem to have no sense of humor are the Oregonians. Tell them that Portland is a yawn of a tourist destination, and a lot of them go just as batshit as you and North Liar Forty and Michigan Matt and Matt Sanchez do. I think it’s a hoot, myself.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Wow, Patrick, even his willingness to admit he made the remarks… and from the context there, THERE WERE RACIST… the guy is unrepentant.
It’s the whole arrogance of the gayLeft mindset. They can never, ever hold themselves accountable for foaming, but they’re very willing to climb on a pedestal, put on the halo and demonstrate against “the vast right wingut conspiracy”.
Charles is a racist. You proved it. He has no shame… he even tries to spin away and divert attention from his dripping spittle.
He doesn’t deserve our scorn… he deserves our pity.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Patrick, and you just gotta love this spin: CW “At long last, you told the truth. It’s about time”
This from the guy who continued to deny ever, ever having said those racist, bigoted remarks even though they were just made a week ago?
I think he was hoping you couldn’t locate the remarks… and he got emboldened as time went by and his denials became more strident, baiting.
Such a piece of work, eh? Yeow.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Patrick, and you just gotta love this spin: CW “At long last, you told the truth. It’s about time”
This from the guy who continued to deny ever, ever having said those racist, bigoted remarks even though they were just made a week ago?
I think he was hoping you couldn’t locate the remarks… and he got emboldened as time went by and his denials became more strident, baiting.
Such a piece of work, eh? Yeow.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Wow, Patrick, even his willingness to admit he made the remarks… and from the context there, THERE WERE RACIST… the guy is unrepentant.
It’s the whole arrogance of the gayLeft mindset. They can never, ever hold themselves accountable for foaming, but they’re very willing to climb on a pedestal, put on the halo and demonstrate against “the vast right wingut conspiracy”.
Charles is a racist. You proved it. He has no shame… he even tries to spin away and divert attention from his dripping spittle.
He doesn’t deserve our scorn… he deserves our pity.
Now can we get back to the thread? Please.
posted by Charles Wilson on
Poor Michigan Matt. You just can’t quit me, can you? Woof. Damn. Ha!
posted by Patrick on
MM, you got it dead to center ring with this:
“Charles is a racist. You proved it. He has no shame… he even tries to spin away and divert attention from his dripping spittle.
He doesn’t deserve our scorn… he deserves our pity.”
How true. How true.
posted by Michigan-Matt on
Patrick, you may have read upstream in the threads that the word is finally out on our dear Charles Wilson.
Readers here are now condemning his conduct as “atrocious”.
Of course, people have done that before to little positive effect… at many other blog sites Charles just packs his bags when barred, banned and blocked and moves to new hunting grounds, always on the search for a fresh target.
I think the guy is so sick he actually enjoys baiting, harassing and belittling strangers.
Weren’t you the one -or was it NDXXX- who noted Charles publically humilitated a young mother of an MS patient and browbeat her to the point of near collapse.
Then he fumed for weeks she didn’t accept his private email apology after he stalked her down and learned of her email addy?
Wow, Charles is one sick dude.