Could Rudy Be the Man?

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Ryan Sager finds surprising strength for Rudy G. among GOP activists not otherwise prone to support a pro-gay, pro-choice fiscal conservative.

14 Comments for “Could Rudy Be the Man?”

  1. posted by Northeast Libertarian on

    Which means that Rudy will happily drop his pro-gay stuff in order to get the support of those guys, just like Bill Weld did to get the Republican nomination. . . before backtracking to get the Libertarian nomination, before then breaking his promise to run under the (L) banner regardless of his ambitions for the GOP.

    Rule Number 1 of politics: politicians aren’t to be trusted.

    Rule Number 2 of politics: Republicans are politicians.

  2. posted by Kittynboi on

    NL, that doesn’t matter.

    What does matter is that “independent” gays do all sorts of intellectual acrobatics in order to support a republican candidate just to show to the world and themselves they aren’t democrats.

  3. posted by Bobby on

    Rudy is a lot more honest than John McCain and Hillary Clinton. He’s not a perfect conservative, but he’s not a left-wing radical either.

  4. posted by Northeast Libertarian on

    Sorry, Kittyn, you’re right of course, I just felt compelled to point out the obvious.

    If Rudy needed to marry another man to get elected, he would. If Rudy needed to renounce all gay rights and shoot a gay man between the eyes on national television in order to get elected, he would. Like most politicians (and so-called “conservatives” today), it’s not about principles, honesty or anything more than simple personal power.

  5. posted by kittynboi on

    Bobby, I’m surprised that anyone would qualify as anything other than a “left wing radical” by your standards.

  6. posted by Bobby on

    My standards aren\\’t as harsh as you think. Besides, I respect straight talkers, and unlike McCain, Rudy seems like an honest guy.

    I tell you this, Rudy was a lot better than Bloomberg. Heard the latest? Thousands of people are without power in Queens and Blomberg just congratulated the CEO of Con Edison.

    This is what New York gets for voting for a RINO.

    Now all Rudy has to do is convince the voters that he\\’s not gonna change the social order if he gets elected.

  7. posted by raj on

    I cannot stand Giuliani. When he was prosecutor in NYC, he made a point of engaging in high profile arrests of people that he had accused of white color crimes while they were in their offices, before TV cameras (always call the press!), with the obvious intent of embarrassing them before they had even been arraigned. Then he would get in from of the cameras and basically try his case outside of the courtroom–with the obvious intent of trying to taint the jury pool.

    And when he was mayor, his police department engaged in more then a few instances of police brutality, the two most famous of which are Abner Louima (whom the police sodomized with a broomstick) and Amadou Diallou (who was murdered by the police). Did Giuliani actually commit those acts or other, lesser-known, acts of police brutality? No. But he did set a tone in his administration that allowed if not encouraged them to happen.

  8. posted by Northeast Libertarian on

    Yep, he’s just another power-loving politician. In other words, the perfect GOP candidate.

    The hilarious thing is that the same Republicans who whine endlessly about Eliot Spitzer’s “convict in the media” political prosecutions are salivating over an opportunity to run Guiliani — who nearly single-handedly invented the concept Spitzer trades on today.

  9. posted by Bobby on

    Raj, you know very well that most DA’s and attorneys do what they can to taint the jury pool. The DA goes on TV saying anything he wants unless the judge puts a gag order. The lawyers do the same, going on CNN, Fox News, etc.

    The good thing is that in the end, it’s up to a jury to decide.

    As for police brutality, yes, it does happen. But it also happens that criminals often brutalize their communities and get away with it scott free.

    And while liberals often say that criminals are victims of poverty, they never give the same kinds of breaks to cops.

    In the end, Luima came out of this as a rich man. So who says there’s no justice in America?

  10. posted by kittynboi on

    “””” they never give the same kinds of breaks to cops.””””

    I tend to view the bad cops as victims of stupidity.

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  11. posted by Northeast Libertarian on

    In the end, Luima came out of this as a rich man. So who says there’s no justice in America?

    OK, Bobby. Let’s shove a broomstick up your recturm until your colon bursts, and then pay you $800K. You’ve got no right to complain about it, since you’re now a “rich man,” right?

  12. posted by raj on

    Northeast Libertarian | July 27, 2006, 1:43am |

    I’ve long considered Bobby to be either something of a caricature or merely a jackass–or maybe a petulant child–but his comment to which you responded was clearly beyond the pale.

  13. posted by Bobby on

    You know something, Raj? Gays like you justify homophobia.

  14. posted by etjb on

    Bobby;

    An offer has been made to rape your ass with a broomstick. You have indicted that such cruel and harsh treatment is not a problem for you. Will you accept the terms? If not, then I will take your silence as agreement that what you said was stupid.

    Then again, you see to have little problem with other people suffering.

    I have to ask, how many pro-gay things did Rudy do that would not be have been done by just about any other mayor of a large, urban, cosmopolitian city?

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