It’s Not Abortion, Stupid

Gay marriage is not like abortion.

This might seem obvious - one is about keeping a life from starting, the other is about joining two lives together - but in fact, gay marriage is compared to abortion a lot.

People lump gay marriage in the same polarizing issue category as abortion and gun control all the time. It's one of the issues, it seems, that defines someone as a liberal or conservative, from a Red state or a Blue one.

For example, the Washington Post said in a headline in 2004 that gay marriage is "the new abortion." And often, legal experts or other talking heads will predict the outcome of a Supreme Court gay marriage battle by looking at Roe v. Wade. That decision was a disaster, they say, because the Court's opinion protecting the right to an abortion was far ahead of public opinion. The country was heading toward making abortion legal anyway, the theory goes, until the Court made a big deal about it and caused a backlash that we're still suffering from.

But gay marriage is not abortion. In a New Yorker article on the Proposition 8 trial Perry v. Schwarzenegger, which is currently being argued, Margaret Talbot writes that researchers who "have studied public opinion on gay rights, believe that in five years a majority of Americans will favor same-sex marriage-the result of generational replacement and what [one researcher] calls 'attitude adjustment.'"

She goes on to say, "The generational divide does not produce such results for all social issues. On abortion, for instance, younger Americans tend to be less supportive of unfettered rights. Nor does gay marriage seem to be a life-cycle issue-one that people become more conservative about as they age."

Also, when people change their minds about gay marriage, they tend to do it in only one direction - become approving. Abortion can change minds either way.

Why is this? Because intuitively, people understand that abortion (or gun control) is fundamentally different from gay marriage.

Abortion and gun control are both privacy issues. People who want an abortion or want to own a gun (or who don't want to wear a seatbelt or get their kid immunized) are people who want to make a personal choice without government interference or regulation.

In a world without a government, they would be able to make these choices unhindered.

Also, they apply to everyone equally. Either every woman can get an abortion or no one can. Gays and lesbians who want to get married are simply asking to be regulated in the same way as straight couples. We are asking that the laws apply equally to us.

Yes, we can opt out of the system all together. We can get married in a church without the state's involvement or not marry at all, but live together as a couple. That would be a private choice, and that is the sort of choice already addressed by the overturning of sodomy laws by the Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas.

But what we want is for the law to apply to us. We WANT to be regulated in the same way as anyone else. We WANT the state to sanction our unions. We want to abide by the state's tax laws for couples.

The reason that people (even conservative people, like Dick Cheney) move toward acceptance of gay marriage is because eventually they recognize that the issue is not a moral question - as abortion is - but instead is about a fundamental issue of fairness.

Gay marriage is not abortion. Let's not predict failure just because we think it is.

6 Comments for “It’s Not Abortion, Stupid”

  1. posted by BobN on

    (even conservative people, like Dick Cheney) move toward acceptance of gay marriage

  2. posted by BobN on

    Ahem. What happened to the rest of my comment?

    Cheney does NOT support same-sex marriage. He is on record saying that he supports our right to form (meaningless, unrecognized) relationships with no clout.

    Whooop-dee-doo

  3. posted by Throbert McGee on

    Cheney does NOT support same-sex marriage. He is on record saying that he supports our right to form (meaningless, unrecognized) relationships with no clout.

    And exactly how much “clout” do “same-sex marriages” have when they’re imposed by court order, but not endorsed by popular referendum?

  4. posted by Jerry on

    “And exactly how much “clout” do “same-sex marriages” have when they’re imposed by court order, but not endorsed by popular referendum?”

    How much “clout” did the marriage of Mildred and Richard Loving have after it was imposed by court order on the State of Virginia be lacked popular support?

    I would hate to test the popular support for marriages between whites and African Americans in all 50 states. I think there are probably states where a majority does not support the idea. Just recently a justice of the peace in Louisiana resigned because he refused to marry a mixed race couple in a civil service. Loving v Virginia was decided in 1967 and yet there are still people who are angry about it.

  5. posted by BobN on

    And exactly how much “clout” do “same-sex marriages” have when they’re imposed by court order, but not endorsed by popular referendum?

    Wha??? Your comment has nothing to do with Cheney’s view and appears to be just a whine about marriage rights get created. To answer your question, a Massachusetts marriage has plenty of clout at the state level.

    Now, back to Cheney, I can only assume you agree with my comment that he DOES NOT support SSM or civil unions.

  6. posted by Lymis on

    Thank you!

    The biggest reason gay marriage is different from abortion is that there isn’t really any disagreement about what gay marriage is.

    The biggest stumbling block with abortion is that one side sees (or says they do) it as the murder of a human being, while the other side sees (or says they do) it as a medical procedure and a privacy matter. There really isn’t a compromise position on that. How much murder is someone supposed to accept? The only compromise position is support of a robust and universal contraception and education plan that prevents unwanted conceptions.

    People correctly point out that a lot of the anti-abortion arguments are really anti-sex, and that the vast majority of people who say it is murder aren’t willing to apply the punishments for murder to it. But there really is a fundamental mismatch about what is actually happening that prevents most logical discussion of it.

    Gay marriage is different, because everyone agrees on what exactly happens. They disagree on what it means and whether it is appropriate, but there isn’t any question about exactly what rights and social benefits are involved. People disagree on whether two men or two women should GET those, but not what exactly they are.

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